Wow, where were all these people for the PSASBR flop thread Rol made? Sony said it was selling to expectations and nobod cared since the VGC community expected more.

Euphoria14 said: Wow, where were all these people for the PSASBR flop thread Rol made? Sony said it was selling to expectations and nobod cared since the VGC community expected more.

I believe that thread was made well before sony stated that, and I'm pretty sure he made that thread because of the ridiculous predictions by a few posters.  On top of that it wasn't a well recieved game.

The point of this thread is the same as your "Mario Kart > GT + Forza thread": to expose a problem in the community so clearly that it becomes extremely obvious to everyone. 

Can someone explain why people thought that Playstation All-Stars Wii U would sell 3.5 millions of copies Consoles?

Ahhh, I see.  To make fun of people who are saying it is a flop?  Who has been saying it's a flop or are you talking about the gamespot thread I made a few days ago?

I haven't seen multiple thread being made about the WiiU being a flop but I get what you are trying to do i suppose

Why would people think that. One or two data points don't make a trend. The dates were of course considered but the rumors also painted pretty pictures with september or october as release dates.

Horrible flop.

I don't know why price and supply-constraints are important. The console sells what it sells. Surely, price influences the demand, but the same does advertisement and games. Should we say, that PS2-launch-numbers aren't comparable, because the system had good games, was cheap and had good advertisement? Nobody forced Sony to price the PS3 at 600 €/$, they could have reduced the specs and release to a lower price-point.

The later release on the other hand is a point, but considering that:

WiiU, Japan, first 4 weeks: 644,474

WiiU, Europe, first 4 weeks: 415,426

WiiU, USA, first 4 weeks: 849,068

Sum:  1,908,968

PS3, Japan, first 4 weeks: 197,567

PS3, Europe, first 4 weeks: 743,910

PS3, USA, first 4 weeks:  378,603

Sum:  1,320,080

So, the WiiU launched better than PS3 even if you take into account the later launch.

And stop the crap, that this comparison is not working because of the price, otherwise I start to praise 3DO-launch.

Nah I think that unless my skills of deduction are very off, this thread is a really roundabout response to the sales numbers of a certain Sony product.  In which case, prodcuts are judged based on how they perform in relationship to other similar products in a given market.

The Wii U's numbers for its first month  (1.8mil) are about double the X-Box 360's (940K), about triple the PS3's (560K), and few hundred thousand off from the Wii (about 2 million).  So, flop doesn't seem apt. 

Meanwhile, if we take a game like, say, Playstation All Stars Battle Royale and compare it with its peers, we get results like this.

At one month.

Smash Bros Brawl- 1.5 million

Mortal Kombat- 908K

Street Fighter IV X-Box 360- 860 K

Street Fighter IV- PS3-880 K

Soul Calibur 4- PS3- 670K

Marvel vs Capcom 3- PS3- 567 K

Marvel vs Capcom 3- X-Box 360- 450 K

PSASBR- 342k

Soul Calibur 5- PS3- 318 K

Street Fighter X Tekken (PS3)- 297K

Persona 4 Arena- 227K

Epic Mickey- 1.4 million

Dishonored (360)- 680K

Spec Ops The Line (PS3)- 205K

Kid Icarus: Uprising- 588K

That's Playstation All Stars Battle Royale compared to other fighting games and other new (and newish) IPs.  Everyone can decide for themselves what is and isn't a flop.