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pezus said:
Conegamer said:
pezus said:
Conegamer said:
Chandler said:
Mnementh said:

As I said, WiiU does OK in most regions, but can you do the same graph for Europe? In numbers it looks horrible.


It's not "OK" to pass the Wii, that's an understatement. And yes, in europe Wii U doesn't look good right now, but it's also not too far away from the pack.

 


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The worst thing about that graph is that PS3 launched in March lol, vs. everyone else launching in November


Scary but I'd say the other consoles will be ahead if we extend this a couple months. Only goes towards disproving the poor start theory.

Wii, sure.  Well, until the PS3 had its first holiday season in Europe . The others...no chance I think.

My apologies, that's what I meant. But the PS3 has always been strong in the EU and less so in America. Another great example of America == world.



 

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bananaking21 said:
UncleScrooge said:
kitler53 said:
Pokemonbrawlvg said:
With these numbers the Wii U has sold 1.8 million worldwide so far.

The 3DS is going to make an YoY over last year, as some people didn't expect it to.

Nice sales for Paper Mario

so anyone still think nintendo will hit their 5.5M march forcast?

 

also, fuck at 3DS sales.  outperformed my forcast by like 35k.   ...it looks like i'm going to lose my bet with POE.


If the Wii U sells like 500k + 500k + 200k it will be at 3m at the end of the year. If we assume 500k sales per month for the remainder of the fiscal year (roughly 100k units per week) that would add another 1.5m which would put it at 4.5 million units sold to customers - if Nintendo tries to stuff the channel a bit 5.5m shipped at the end of march wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. The next two weeks will be telling.

Edit: And just to be clear: I don't expect them to meet the forecast. I wouldn't take a bet though. 


the year just has two weeks left, this week its ending at the 15th. so it will be more like 500K +200K and end at 2.5 million. just thought i would point that out, unless your counting this weeks numbers into those 500k+500k+200K


I included the week ending 5th of January because I thought VGChartz would include that in its total 2012 sales. But I forgot the week ending on the 29th isn't an actual holiday week anymore (see my last post) so yeah that week it will drop (not as low as 200k maybe because of Japan but it will drop). Still thanks for pointing it out



Chandler said:
Mnementh said:

As I said, WiiU does OK in most regions, but can you do the same graph for Europe? In numbers it looks horrible.


It's not "OK" to pass the Wii, that's an understatement. And yes, in europe Wii U doesn't look good right now, but it's also not too far away from the pack.

 

Thanks. You are right, the launch-numbers in the US are very good, not only OK. But Wii did good outside launch and holidays, something we will have to wait for for WiiU.

The sales-performance  of the WiiU is unexpected for me. I expected it to do worse than the Wii but better than PS3 and 360, but I expected it more or less same decrease over all regions. So far we are only some weeks after launch, but it show (unexpectedly for me) that it can perform on the same level as the Wii in the US, but performs much worse in Europe. Note that Wii nearly kept it's direction in the following weeks, while the WiiU trails downwards. At the moment I have no explanation for the different reception in the regions.

And I agree with conegamer: you should do that in a thread and compare later with PS4 and Durango too.



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Conegamer said:
Chandler said:
Mnementh said:

As I said, WiiU does OK in most regions, but can you do the same graph for Europe? In numbers it looks horrible.


It's not "OK" to pass the Wii, that's an understatement. And yes, in europe Wii U doesn't look good right now, but it's also not too far away from the pack.

 


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the best thing about that graph is that it can't be used for predicting anything.



UK Halo 4 sales are up 1k this week to just over 60k. Pretty disappointing but an increase is an increase! Perhaps ioi was taking away overtracked sales from previous weeks out of this weeks sales?

Anyway, next week sales should be a good bit higher. UK retail goes mad at Christmas



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pezus said:
dsgrue3 said:
Train wreck said:

When was the last time no console sold a million+ during the holiday season?

edit: this late in the holiday season.  I suspect that next weeks numbers will have at least 1 system at 1 million


Your suspicions are invalid. 

2011 Global - Dec 24th

 

1,072,725 - Xbox 360

885,066 - PS3

 

360 is down 33% globally and PS3 is down 25%.

In other words, not a snowballs chance in hell of any console over 1 million next week. 

3DS might

Yea but its a weeks before christmas lol, i remember times when there was 2 or 3 (mostly nintendo products) at 1, 2 3, 4 mill+ during late november early december.  Time definatly a changin.



UncleScrooge said:
kitler53 said:
UncleScrooge said:
kitler53 said:
Pokemonbrawlvg said:
With these numbers the Wii U has sold 1.8 million worldwide so far.

The 3DS is going to make an YoY over last year, as some people didn't expect it to.

Nice sales for Paper Mario

so anyone still think nintendo will hit their 5.5M march forcast?

 

also, fuck at 3DS sales.  outperformed my forcast by like 35k.   ...it looks like i'm going to lose my bet with POE.


If the Wii U sells like 500k + 500k + 200k it will be at 3m at the end of the year. If we assume 500k sales per month for the remainder of the fiscal year (roughly 100k units per week) that would add another 1.5m which would put it at 4.5 million units sold to customers - if Nintendo tries to stuff the channel a bit 5.5m shipped at the end of march wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. The next two weeks will be telling.

your off on your number of week left in the year.  wiiU could do 500k next week (week ending in dec 22nd) then 200k (week ending in dec 29th, post western holidays but japan remains high). then we're post holidays and sales will be low for everyone.   so like 2.5M end of year sell though?  add 1M on shelves (stores will only let you stuff so much).   so wiiU will need about 1.5-2M sell though in jan/feb/march?  something like that?


You're right, I forgot the the 23rd was a sunday so no chance things will stay flat that week. I don't expect them to meet their target anyways - something like 4m sold to customers, 5m shipped maybe. Nintendo always expects sales to stay high without any games lol. They said they learned from the 3DS disaster but they really didn't - the Wii U release schedule is pretty barren next quarter. They even pushed Pikmin back...

yeah, i think 5M could be achievable with a certain amount of channel stuffing.  i can't say i'm too up to date on wiiU's releases early next year but i think rayman should do well.  nintendo fans tend to like platformers and rayman is a really good one.   i'm still upset about how murphy plays out but it will probably be a good title overall.



pezus said:
dsgrue3 said:
Train wreck said:

When was the last time no console sold a million+ during the holiday season?

edit: this late in the holiday season.  I suspect that next weeks numbers will have at least 1 system at 1 million


Your suspicions are invalid. 

2011 Global - Dec 24th

 

1,072,725 - Xbox 360

885,066 - PS3

 

360 is down 33% globally and PS3 is down 25%.

In other words, not a snowballs chance in hell of any console over 1 million next week. 

3DS might

It would have the best chance. Good point!



pezus said:
Conegamer said:
Chandler said:
Mnementh said:

As I said, WiiU does OK in most regions, but can you do the same graph for Europe? In numbers it looks horrible.


It's not "OK" to pass the Wii, that's an understatement. And yes, in europe Wii U doesn't look good right now, but it's also not too far away from the pack.

 


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The worst thing about that graph is that PS3 launched in March lol, vs. everyone else launching in November


No, the worst thing about this graph is that it doesn't show the full picture. The PS3 came out of the gate running but fell flat on it's face soon after. give this graph a couple of weeks and you'll see.

 

Here's also JP and global (3 regions combined). Not really that helpful with only 2 weeks of data but whatever.



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pezus said:
Conegamer said:
Chandler said:
Mnementh said:

As I said, WiiU does OK in most regions, but can you do the same graph for Europe? In numbers it looks horrible.


It's not "OK" to pass the Wii, that's an understatement. And yes, in europe Wii U doesn't look good right now, but it's also not too far away from the pack.

 


Create a thread! Keep it updated!

The worst thing about that graph is that PS3 launched in March lol, vs. everyone else launching in November

Yes, it was a great launch for PS3. It has to do with the fact, that it came months later, people couldn't wait, some games had already arrived and so on. But nonetheless, the launch was very great, and for some time it looked back then, as if europe really had saved the PS3. But after that came a long time of sluggish sales, before it started to the levels it has now.



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