Well, this thread taught me something. Sony's problem isn't that they are making handheld versions of console games. It's that none of Sony's IPs mean diddlysquat in the handheld market compared to Nintendo's.

Do you know of something called owning a Japanese 3DS? I sense a lot of bitterness in this thread...

What you just described is EXACTLY how many of the Vita Console Spinoff titles play. I really don't want to go through how they are different again as I already have several times in this very thread. I would just say read the last few pages to see. UGA,AC,Wipeout, Super Stardust Delta, etc all embody this design philosophy. Even more so some of the new IP exclusives like Gravity Rush, Unit 13, Escape Plan,etc.

Good. The thread has served its purpose.

Doctor Lautrec, Crosswords Plus, New Art Academy, Etrain Odyssey 4 (has been confirmed for localization), King of Pirates (this has been confirmed), Guild 01, Nano Assault.

Ok, these games fit the criteria. You can separate Guild 01 into the three games that are localized (Liberation Maiden, Aero Porter, and Crimson Shroud).

I am not trying to spin this into whether they were right or wrong to do so, it was their choice as a company.  You say it like not doing so would have put Nintendo in Sony level financial jeopordy. They were/are completely stable and could have toughed through the low sales for a year.3DS at its original price was pure Apple level profit. During that time there was much back talk that at the same price point Nintendo looked meek next to the Vita. After a few months of baring the torment and low sales they caved in. They didn't want to possibly be seen as  on even ground with Vita. They COULD have stayed their ground, it wasn't like they were losing money. If they kept the course they could have squeezed more of that hi sell value out of consumers before dropping. At least that way the consumers wouldn't feel they can just cold shoulder a system in the future just so they can get the price point they want(which in the future might not be a feasible choice) hence the reason it could be seen as detrimental.

Nevertheless it was pure bad news for Sony upon release. Sony is opting to stick to their ground for the very reason I described. At this point its too late for them to keep tight lipped as Nintendo already set that standard that they have to if they don't want to fall too far behind. Regardless, Sony is making profit on all games and systems sold, which is all they care about right now. We will just have to see how this all pans out for Sony in the end.

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Xxain said:
I see where going but its deeper than just a console game on a handheld. There is Metal Gear on Consoles and Metal Gear on handhelds. Though the are series, each offers a different xxperience. Console Metal Gear is the tried and true formula everybody knows. In regards to Handheld MG they took a different approach. They alot of Monster Hunter, alittle bit of Pokemon and infused it MG to create something not found in the console versions. Peace Walker is completely different design than any console MG. Final Fantasy also does this With the crystal chronicle series. Its about creating a different xxperience to consoles which SONY and Vita have not done.

Outside of a new adventure for drake, what xxactly is different design wise? How about AC? blop? What are they doing to createva xxperience different than consoles?



What you just described is EXACTLY how many of the Vita Console Spinoff titles play. I really don't want to go through how they are different again as I already have several times in this very thread. I would just say read the last few pages to see. UGA,AC,Wipeout, Super Stardust Delta, etc all embody this design philosophy. Even more so some of the new IP exclusives like Gravity Rush, Unit 13, Escape Plan,etc.






Gravity Rush,escape plan, Game Arts in general are good because they desined around handheld philosophies. What xxperiences do Uncharted, blops:d, PSASB,assasins creed give that cannot be found in the console counterparts? I promise you FC. When these questions get confronted and then and steps get taken to make sure that all console vita games are designed in a way that gives something not found in the console vita will be more desirable.

What's wrong with console franchises being on a handheld in the first place? My most sought after game on the 3DS as of right now is Fire Emblem.

Does Kid Icarus count as a console series? Seeing how it hasn't had a console iteration since the NES? Because that's the only retail 3DS game I own.

As for DS games I bought to play on my 3DS, I have Pokémon White 2 (iteration of a handheld game!), MegaMan Zero Collection (MegaMan was originally a console IP, but the Zero games are all handheld games, so...?), Trauma Center: Under the Knife, and maybe another I forgot about.

I also have a few eShop games -- Pushmo, Mighty Switch Force, Sakura Samurai.

And upcoming games I'll be buying include Fire Emblem (not sure what you want to consider that) and Monster Hunter (more a portable series than console now, but it is an enhanced port of Tri for Wii, so I dunno). And I'm eying more eShop games, including Mutant Mudds, Denpa Men, Crashmo, Ketzal's Corriders, and Liberation Maiden, at least. All of those are original IP excepting Crashmo, obviously a handheld series. Ah! And the whole Shantae series. Gotta get me those, including the recently announced eShop one. That's a handheld IP.

I actually can with ease...

Uncharted:Gyro aiming, drag and drop grenade throwing, trace and follow, push on drake's back to get him up ledges, climbing with rear pad intuitively, rubbings, code deciphering with light via the camera, swiping screen for attackes, etc. Almost all are optional tho.

ACIII Liberations: Persona costumes add a spy like dynamic to the gameplay, different weapon varieties (Poison/halucinagenic Darts, Whip, etc), touch controls for convenience like map or special attacks.

PSASBR is indeed a direct port. Haven't played Blops:Declass ut it also has several mechanics not present in console version(regardless of the game's quality).

I just find it funny that some camps scream "I DONT WANT TOUCH CONTROLS" yet also at the same time want play mechanics not possibe on console as well. Sony has done a great job of meeting both half way but all this premature labeling of their titles keeps people from being willing to experience what they have to offer. Like I have stated throughout this thread, many of 3DS titles are the same way, only real difference is attached to their input gimmicks, otherwise totally doable on console or is exactly like it.