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michael_stutzer said:
pezus said:
EntilZha said:
It is fun to hear people talk trash about what ever phone choice the "other" people make. It follows along the same lines as comments about choices for gaming consoles. In the end, it makes little difference which smartphone you get, as they all do about the same job.
As for me, I have never owned a smart phone, and I look forward to purchasing the iPhone 5 when it comes out. I chose Apple because I own an iMac and iPad, so it will fit very nicely with them. Having said that, I think the S3 is a very cool phone as well. I would be happy with either one, but I know the S3 will not sync with my other Apple products quite so easily. That, and the fact that I really love the Apple interface, which I am very familiar with.

Bold: That's the problem. When you have cheaper options that do the same thing, except they lack the Apple logo, you're allowed to trash talk them.

Iphone 4/4s can't do a lot of things that the much cheaper options can. 


If they did do everything I can do on Android then I might own one, alas I'm not Apple's target audience.



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michael_stutzer said:
pezus said:
EntilZha said:
It is fun to hear people talk trash about what ever phone choice the "other" people make. It follows along the same lines as comments about choices for gaming consoles. In the end, it makes little difference which smartphone you get, as they all do about the same job.
As for me, I have never owned a smart phone, and I look forward to purchasing the iPhone 5 when it comes out. I chose Apple because I own an iMac and iPad, so it will fit very nicely with them. Having said that, I think the S3 is a very cool phone as well. I would be happy with either one, but I know the S3 will not sync with my other Apple products quite so easily. That, and the fact that I really love the Apple interface, which I am very familiar with.

Bold: That's the problem. When you have cheaper options that do the same thing, except they lack the Apple logo, you're allowed to trash talk them.

Iphone 4/4s can't do a lot of things that the much cheaper options can. 

I am very new to smart phones, and I am not sure just what each one is capable of doing. I assumed they all do the same basic things like make phone calls, text, run apps, and take pictures. Before I actually buy an iPhone, can you list some of the "lot of things that the much cheaper options" can do? I would hate to be misinformed about my purchase and waste a lot of money for nothing.



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EntilZha said:
michael_stutzer said:
pezus said:
EntilZha said:
It is fun to hear people talk trash about what ever phone choice the "other" people make. It follows along the same lines as comments about choices for gaming consoles. In the end, it makes little difference which smartphone you get, as they all do about the same job.
As for me, I have never owned a smart phone, and I look forward to purchasing the iPhone 5 when it comes out. I chose Apple because I own an iMac and iPad, so it will fit very nicely with them. Having said that, I think the S3 is a very cool phone as well. I would be happy with either one, but I know the S3 will not sync with my other Apple products quite so easily. That, and the fact that I really love the Apple interface, which I am very familiar with.

Bold: That's the problem. When you have cheaper options that do the same thing, except they lack the Apple logo, you're allowed to trash talk them.

Iphone 4/4s can't do a lot of things that the much cheaper options can. 

I am very new to smart phones, and I am not sure just what each one is capable of doing. I assumed they all do the same basic things like make phone calls, text, run apps, and take pictures. Before I actually buy an iPhone, can you list some of the "lot of things that the much cheaper options" can do? I would hate to be misinformed about my purchase and waste a lot of money for nothing.

Where to begin????

True multi-tasking

Widgets

Customised launchers and screens

Install apps from 3rd party vendors

4G

Video calling over 3G

Increase memory via micro SD

.......

That's just off the top of my head.

iPhones only sell to people who like shiny stuff.

Like many have said...... "iPhones are a smart phone for dumb people"



 

 

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EntilZha said:
michael_stutzer said:
pezus said:
EntilZha said:
It is fun to hear people talk trash about what ever phone choice the "other" people make. It follows along the same lines as comments about choices for gaming consoles. In the end, it makes little difference which smartphone you get, as they all do about the same job.
As for me, I have never owned a smart phone, and I look forward to purchasing the iPhone 5 when it comes out. I chose Apple because I own an iMac and iPad, so it will fit very nicely with them. Having said that, I think the S3 is a very cool phone as well. I would be happy with either one, but I know the S3 will not sync with my other Apple products quite so easily. That, and the fact that I really love the Apple interface, which I am very familiar with.

Bold: That's the problem. When you have cheaper options that do the same thing, except they lack the Apple logo, you're allowed to trash talk them.

Iphone 4/4s can't do a lot of things that the much cheaper options can. 

I am very new to smart phones, and I am not sure just what each one is capable of doing. I assumed they all do the same basic things like make phone calls, text, run apps, and take pictures. Before I actually buy an iPhone, can you list some of the "lot of things that the much cheaper options" can do? I would hate to be misinformed about my purchase and waste a lot of money for nothing.

Yes, Iphone do basic thing like  making phone calls, texting, running apps and taking pictures. All of the cheaper option can do all of that. If you want to do more than that, you are out of luck if you have an Iphone. You  have to use the system apps that the OEM wants you to use, such as music or camera apps. For example the default music player on Iphone 4 was weak ( maybe it improved, but ı don't think so), but you can't change it. Or for browser, you have to use Safari. Other browsers are basically Safari in disguise. You can't transfer files via blutooth between other phones if they are not Iphone.  You can't save files attached to emails. No customization at all. I can go on if you want.



Last time I checked this was a gaming website :/



 

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michael_stutzer said:

Yes, Iphone do basic thing like  making phone calls, texting, running apps and taking pictures. All of the cheaper option can do all of that. If you want to do more than that, you are out of luck if you have an Iphone. You  have to use the system apps that the OEM wants you to use, such as music or camera apps. For example the default music player on Iphone 4 was weak ( maybe it improved, but ı don't think so), but you can't change it. Or for browser, you have to use Safari. Other browsers are basically Safari in disguise. You can't transfer files via blutooth between other phones if they are not Iphone.  You can't save files attached to emails. No customization at all. I can go on if you want.

You can't save files attached to emails.

This statement sticks out for me. My wife has a 3GS and she can save any file attached to an email. So either Apple has somehow removed this feature from newer iphones, or your statement is false. 

You  have to use the system apps that the OEM wants you to use, such as music or camera apps.

I went to the app store and found MP3 players that do not use itunes (example, EZMP3 Player Pro), and many camera apps as well. Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean by this statement? 

Or for browser, you have to use Safari.

I found CHROME in the apps store for iphone. 

No customization at all.

Okay, in my wife's iphone there is a settings menu where you can customize all sorts of things. You can create your own folders for apps, set any image for your home screen, you can even customize the vibration patterns and assign them to specific callers. How cool is that?

When I ask for advice on making a decision on choosing a product (phone, console, handheld, computer,...) I am never sure if I can trust the information I get. Even legit sites seem to give misinformation or coloured opinions. I guess that is why I always double check the information before making any decisions. Your statements have actually helped me to learn more about the iphone. 

 



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MegaDrive08 said:
Last time I checked this was a gaming website :/


iPhones are the future of gaming.

UPDATE: 58 million iPhone 5's to be sold in 2012 - Bloomberg

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EntilZha said:
You can't save files attached to emails.

This statement sticks out for me. My wife has a 3GS and she can save any file attached to an email. So either Apple has somehow removed this feature from newer iphones, or your statement is false. 

You  have to use the system apps that the OEM wants you to use, such as music or camera apps.

I went to the app store and found MP3 players that do not use itunes (example, EZMP3 Player Pro), and many camera apps as well. Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean by this statement? 

Or for browser, you have to use Safari.

I found CHROME in the apps store for iphone. 

No customization at all.

Okay, in my wife's iphone there is a settings menu where you can customize all sorts of things. You can create your own folders for apps, set any image for your home screen, you can even customize the vibration patterns and assign them to specific callers. How cool is that?

When I ask for advice on making a decision on choosing a product (phone, console, handheld, computer,...) I am never sure if I can trust the information I get. Even legit sites seem to give misinformation or coloured opinions. I guess that is why I always double check the information before making any decisions. Your statements have actually helped me to learn more about the iphone. 

 

There is indeed customization in IOS if you consider changing vibration patterns and wallpapers as customization. You can change the brightness or sound settings too.

That Chrome browser is useless, there is no point in using it over Safari. I've already said that in my original post but probably you didn't read it. There is a huge speed difference and it will always be like that because of the restrictions on third party browsers. If you like how Chrome look you can use it over Safari, I guess.

You can't change most of the system apps, my apologies there. Of course there are many camera apps that have various effects and so on, my apologies for saying that. Keyboard and messaging application are a few of the things you can't change. If I am still wrong on that please correct me. Though a simple Google search tells me that you can't change anything without jailbreaking your device. You have to jailbreak it to change the colors it seems: http://www.ehow.com/how_5920783_change-sms-text-message-bubbles.html . Customization at its best.

On my friends Iphone 4 I can't save the email attachments and here is another link that says the same http://www.iphoneforums.net/forum/jailbreak-applications-tweaks-70/ios-5-save-email-attachments-tweak-31124/ Maybe it was just because I am new to the phone. 



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michael_stutzer said:

There is indeed customization in IOS if you consider changing vibration patterns and wallpapers as customization. You can change the brightness or sound settings too.

That Chrome browser is useless, there is no point in using it over Safari. I've already said that in my original post but probably you didn't read it. There is a huge speed difference and it will always be like that because of the restrictions on third party browsers. If you like how Chrome look you can use it over Safari, I guess.

You can't change most of the system apps, my apologies there. Of course there are many camera apps that have various effects and so on, my apologies for saying that. Keyboard and messaging application are a few of the things you can't change. If I am still wrong on that please correct me. Though a simple Google search tells me that you can't change anything without jailbreaking your device. You have to jailbreak it to change the colors it seems: http://www.ehow.com/how_5920783_change-sms-text-message-bubbles.html . Customization at its best.

On my friends Iphone 4 I can't save the email attachments and here is another link that says the same http://www.iphoneforums.net/forum/jailbreak-applications-tweaks-70/ios-5-save-email-attachments-tweak-31124/ Maybe it was just because I am new to the phone. 

I did read your comment about the other browsers, but I was not sure what you meant by it. I was not aware there were restrictions on what third party apps could do in this area. In my defense, CHROME does have a decent rating on the apps store of 3.5/5.0

I am not sure what you mean by keyboard applications, but I know you can use many different messaging apps on an iphone (skype, yahoo, etc.) But maybe that is not what you meant. If you are talking about changing text bubble colours, I can do that using Messages on my iMac, can not see how to do it on my wife's 3GS, and I am not sure if iOS 6 will or will not do that. TBH, it is not high on my priority list either way.

As for saving email attachments, I have to apologize for my statement on that. It seems my wife was only referring to image attachments that she can save. Those are the only email attachments she gets. Further research on my part shows that other file types can not be saved without the use of an app like EVEREADER (free).

Thank you for this mature conversation! I am really learning about smart phones, and it will help me to make informed decisions. 



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