So long as you have your Wii network connected, little snippets mentioning the latest releases will scroll by on the space for the Shop Channel on the Main Menu, so there goes that point.

If we don't know how quality control works on XBLA and PSN, we can't be sure of exactly how horrible that sales threshold is. (XBLA indie does not count because it's made for indie devs and this is not an indie game)

MDK2 is a pretty nice third person shooter, and it should have at least done 6k sales. It must be suffering from a lack of promotion, which isn't Nintendos fault.

Perhaps the real issue with WiiWare is that it's set up so that games easily dissapear into the masses, and therefore can't sell, and therefore the sales theshold is a bigger problem than it needs to be?.

Also, WiiWare was always meant to be the place where big publishers do freaky gameplay experiments, it was never meant for small developers that can't support not getting 5999 sales.

WiiWare was a failure as a fundemental concept though, and need to be ditched and reworked from the ground up.

Not supporting WiiU (which will have different online) and calling Wii a toy because of that though? What a tool.

Well first of all it's a WiiWare game so what advertising were you expecting ?
2econdly I heard about it and I don't even care because A) I don't have a Wii and B) own the PC version, but if I had a Wii and not the PC version, I would likely get it because it IS a good (really good) game.

For me it boils down to two things:

1. They knew the rules before they made the game, accepted them, and therefore have absolutely NO right to complain after the fact. You knew the deal, you messed things up, nobody's fault but your own.

2. I don't want any game that expects to sell below 6,000 units to be anywhere near WiiWare. I can only imagine what kind of tripe that would be.

I spoke with a few people I know in the industry this morning that have put out WiiWare games. All of them are laughing at Beamdog right now.

I'd laugh if the game now surpasses the 6,000 units (and continues beyond that) because of all of this. It would be the ultimate proof that they didn't do enough to market the game in the first place.

no he doesn't. they know what they were getting into to before the game come out.

I do agree the limit is a joke though.

"The guys did not get any money for their game.

Think about that.

Not a dime back."


Sounds to me like there was no money to give. Nintendo shouldn't make a loss giving money to developers who make games that won't sell.

Respecting their audience?  You mean by putting out stuff that has a track record of selling on the system?  In other words MORE casual game and Just Dance stuff?  Yes, respect the audience.  Do NOT try to do a FPS, or release an older title that got good ratings, but hasn't shown to be able to sell.  If you want to speak on quality, it is up to you to show that MDK2 sucked and is a poor title.  Do NOT speculate but show ratings on it.  If you can't, you are blowing smoke here.   If MDK2 is a decent title, but sold poorly, you can stuff your quality title argument.

Guess what, it got an 80% rating on Gamerankings.com:

http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/998042-mdk2/index.html

To bash MDK2 by saying it sucked, so it should of did better (aka, only BAD titles don't make the threshold) is a bunch of BS that should stop.  Ball is in your court here.  Show it sucks or stop bringing up the "quality title" argument in reference to MDK2 or say that is the reason why threshold is not met.