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Roma said:
oniyide said:
Roma said:
oniyide said:
dany612 said:
Nintendo is lazy. They better provide a better option than the Wii mote and nunchuk or else they will suffer the fate of consumers seeing it as another Wii. There has to be an update of those motion controls to better resemble the accuracy of the PlayStation Move.


Lazy is a strong word. Complacent? sure, they have motion+ but they dont support the damn thing. I think i can count the motion+ compatible games Ninty made on one hand. While i need at least two for Move or Kinect. And motion+ has been out far longer, its pathetic.

You don’t add motion for the sake of motion. If it can’t be implemented in a good way then it will ruining the game instead of making it better.

What Nintendo games have been made can use motion+? Zelda, Wii sports resort and fling smash or whatever it is called use it but you can’t add that to a SSB or a SMB. You don’t need to use all the buttons on a controller just because it has them. The Wii mote has the pointer and accelerometer which are used in FPS and racing games and just games that need waggle.

As for the OP

SSB will most likely not use the screen at all on Wii U. It will probably play the way people are used to it when in multiplayer form. Maybe the screen will be used when you play online.

They already demonstrated how multiplayer would work if the U-pad was used. Four Wii controllers and one U-pad that the players will take turn in using.

Thats funny cause i can name at least three games of the bat that had motion just for the hell of it. DK Returns, Warioland, NSMBW, all those motions could have been done with a button.  What about all those games released on the system that sucked because the actual motion tech was an inaccurate mess?? Your telling me better motion fidelity could not have helped. Im not saying they should have just made games with Motion+ for the hell of it, but damnit if your already making a motion heavy game, just have motion+ supported at least as an option. Even Sony does that with Move

Sure NSMB didn’t need it but it was only one move that didn’t really make the game worse anyway same goes for DKR.

What is the game Nintendo added motion to just for the sake of it? Or are are talking about 3rd party games? Never played Warioland so I can’t comment on how motion was on it. Well Sony needs to add the option as not everybody has move but everybody has a wiimote and if plus is needed it is usually added with the game.

Now if you want a game to be supporting both motion and regular buttons that wouldn’t work for a game like Zelda SS as it is built around using motion+. That means all the AI will respond to how you move the controller and if you wanted the option to use buttons they would have to write an AI that responds to how Link will behave by pressing a button.

I could live with NSMBWii, but DKR, it actually made the game worse for me. WHy Ninty?? Why do I have to shake the damn controls to roll?? Why not just let me hit a damn button like the good old days? It was not immersive.  Warioland was too much shaking killed the game for me. 

Look im not saying cram it wherever, but if your already making a game that uses motion, why not just make it as good as it can be, and motion+ does that. This isnt just at Ninty, but anyone who ever made a game for Wii. Why the hell make the peripherial in the first place???



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miz1q2w3e said:
maverick40 said:
RolStoppable said:

Those are laughable concerns, at least with the examples you provided.

Super Smash Bros. can simply be played by connecting Classic Controllers to the Wiimotes. Mario Kart is already playable with a Wiimote setup and the Wiimote/Nunchuk option in the Wii game was superior to the CC and GC controller setups. For other types of games, the Wiimote/Nunchuk setup is perfectly viable.

I take it, you have never played the Wii.

Watch out the nintendo defense squad are in. 

You're confused, see here

nah i think he mean't these guys http://www.nintendodf.com/



o_O.Q said:

nah i think he mean't these guys http://www.nintendodf.com/

The site doesn't seem to want to open properly... What was it that you wanted?



miz1q2w3e said:
o_O.Q said:

nah i think he mean't these guys http://www.nintendodf.com/

The site doesn't seem to want to open properly... What was it that you wanted?

it opens fine for me



Doesn't matter since lonely core gamers are gonna play their WII U's online all by themselves.



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megaman79 said:
Doesn't matter since lonely core gamers are gonna play their WII U's online all by themselves.

If this is really the demographic that Nintendo wants, than you're right.



miz1q2w3e said:
I think it'll be an issue, along with the cost of the tablets themselves

I want 4 player games with tablets, do video compression, have less FPS, I don't care, just make it happen!

Thank you.  I think people took my OP as if I'm saying that it will be "TEH HUGEST PROBLEMZ" Nintendo has facing them next year.  Or that I'm saying it will be the downfall of the Wii U and/or Nintendo.  That is not the case at all.  I don't think it will be the ruin of the Wii U, but I do feel it will impact sales and its reception negatively, regardless of how small or large the impact.  You also bring up a good point about the price.  Even if Nintendo gets more than 1 tablet working, judging by the size of the screen I could see the controller itself retailing at $100, maybe a little more.

@ Dr.Grass

it's called speculation using what is known.  It's something we do on this site all the time.



o_O.Q said:
i'm actually more concerned about how much one of these things will cost seperately

This. Also, your sig is win.



RolStoppable said:

Those are laughable concerns, at least with the examples you provided.

Super Smash Bros. can simply be played by connecting Classic Controllers to the Wiimotes. Mario Kart is already playable with a Wiimote setup and the Wiimote/Nunchuk option in the Wii game was superior to the CC and GC controller setups. For other types of games, the Wiimote/Nunchuk setup is perfectly viable.

I take it, you have never played the Wii.


This right here.  There are mutliple games that use like 4 different control syles from just a single wiimote to the classic controler, which between the two have a huge number of button differences.

I have noticed that most of these games tend to be Nintendo developed.  I think MH3 though has a few.  So the only complaint or worry woudl be, how come so many developers can't seem to do such a simple thing that Nintendo always does.  Seems every Nintendo game I have has like multiple control styles, while my non nintendo games only have one.

 

And I hate how so many of you say Nintendo defense force is out.  Is it the defense force to point of clearly wrong things.  If someone says 2 +2 = 5, am I a fanboy to say that its actually 4?  Its like the gamespot review.  I could care less about it being rated a 0, a 3, a 7.5 or a 10.  What I do care about is things like saying the IR is bad, when it doesn't use IR.  Saying the controls are bad when every other reviewer and consumer says they are amazing.  Saying the formula is bland and outdated, when others are saying it is shook up.  Ha also funny how they say its outdated, yet also say they wish it went back to the first Zelda's.  How can you complain about something being outdated when you ask for it to be like something even older?  Anyway, gamespot is what people its statistics call an outlier.  Something that contradicts so badly from 99% of the rest of the data that it is completely ignored and thrown out.  As I said, I don't care about the score, I care only about what is written in the review.  His review is thrown out in my mind.  Anything he had to say about the game is totally irrelivent.  



Let's just see how this turns out. @OP, the Wii-U's pad isn't inspired by the recent popularity of tablets. Read "Iwata Asks". The Wii didn't quite achieve the amount of gamer expansion Nintendo hoped it would. They had wanted it to be as common in a typical living room as a TV is. Since the wii is dependent on a TV (which must be shared among other TV dependent devices), they decided to make a console that won't be solely dependent on a TV.
They said you can't even check a message on your wii when you see the blue light flashing without a TV.



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