This thread doesn't anticipate, the Wii will actually fail. I will only summarize, what could stop the Wii. I will make similar threads for the other consoles, but for the moment it's about the Wii. Reason 1: Nintendo I hear developers of 3rd-party complaining about the late dev-kits for online or Mii's. That sounds not good. The developers of flow said, they asked Nintendo and Sony about releasing the game for their consoles. But Sony put more effort into getting the game, so it's now on the PS3. So the Wii could fail because of the arrogance of Nintendo. Reason 2: Nintendo (again) Nintendo is a great developer of games. Really good games and big sellers. Much better than Sony or Microsoft. So a 3rd-party-developer has to face some strong competition on nintendo-consoles. Reason 3: no HD If in the near future everyone own's a HD-TV (I doubt it, but if this happens), they probably want a console, that uses the features of their tv. Reason 4: bad online-functionality All we hear about it, sounds not too promising at the moment. That else do you think could stop the success of the Wii? Please extend this list.

fail.... will it win this gen hell no, but "fail" not really. it gonna do better then gc or n64.

Most of stuff has already been discussed somehere else on this website. on Reason 1: I haven't heard any complaints from the top development houses. Any jerk without talent or a job, but with a big ego can start a blog and claim to be an indie developer nowadays. on Reason 3: People buy those TVs because they are flat, they are widescreen and they are huge. Then they watch their SD 4:3 programmes zoomed and distorted to 16:9 and don't even notice how weird that looks. Few appreciate what HD actually means. The day that DVD players are kicked out of the living room will be the day to introduce Wii HD, but not before that.

At this point, if you consider failure as not making profit or losing money, it's almost impossible for Nintendo to fail. If you consider failure not getting a majority of sales for the next five years, then possibly. There is almost no way the Wii will have either less profitability or less marketshare than the previous generation, so I don't see how that could be in any way interpreted as failure.

So the Wii will fail because: - It hasn't got the game fl0w... So what? - Nintendo didn't give 3rd party developers dev-kits to implement online or Mii's when they wanted... They will eventually, if they haven't done it by now. - Nintendo is arrogant... If the Wii was to fail for this reason, then the PS3 would be a failure by now... Which it almost is, at least compared to the PS2. - Nintendo has the best games... I thought you bought consoles to play the best games. This should be a reason why it won't fail. - It's difficult for developers to compete with Nintendo software... Well, if they put more effort on their titles, then maybe they would sell more. And Sony and Microsoft are also first parties with really good games and big sellers. - No HD... OK, it's a good reason. But I don't see people adopting HD-TVs massively until TV channels are HD too. - The online doesn't look promising... That's your opinion, since it doesn't exist yet. Apart from the friend codes, I don't see why it doesn't sound promising. In my opinion the Wii could fail for these reasons: - No HD, as you said. - It looses 3rd party support because the crappy ports 3rd parties make for the system don't sell well. - No 3rd party makes good games for the system. - Another company enters the console race making a system more innovative than the Wii. - Either Microsoft or Sony copy the Wiimote technology and are succesful marketing it. - It might be a fad. People might loose interest on it in a couple of years.

Fail is relative. With that in mind, I don't see Wii failing. I don't see it living up to the insane hype, but I do see it giving N64 a run for its money, which is definitely a success for Nintendo when taking into consideration how the Cube did. It won't win, obviously, but it doesn't need to. I don't think Nintendo's games are necessarily that much better or bigger than Sony's or Microsoft's. The problem is people buy Nintendo systems for Nintendo games and tend to ignore everything not from Nintendo. As I see it, the biggest problem for Nintendo is the hardware. It's already outdated. That's a problem when it comes to porting games. This will not prevent third party support, but it is another reason why developers may choose to develop less for it. I do also wonder just how long people will be interested in the controller, which is really the only thing the system has going for it other than Nintendo's games.

alright. gimmick controller, fad dies. lack of AAA 3rd party games. Low 3rd party game sales will mean less 3rd party support. wii version will be much inferior to a PS3/360 version of the game Weak online no hard drive HDTV NIn 1st party is nothing but kiddi games.