I actually liked Man of Steel a lot. I always wanted a good Superman movie. Box offices sales on the other hand...

A lot of their old movies weren't that good and comic book movies are much more popular and socially accepted nowadays. They have been doing much better since Batman Begins.

I guess because outside of certain Batman and Superman movies, they've never been that great. Marvel was facing similar issues before 2008 though, when they finally started putting out quality. After the Dark Knight films, Man of Steel (yes I actually enjoyed that film, along with a lot of people), and the Superman vs Batman and Suicide Squad films that are both looking really good, I think DC is finally starting to hit that same stride. They just need to put some effort forward and take their characters seriously.

They definitely have a shot with Batman vs Superman, if they do it right. Batman has a very difficult hill to climb because it's going to be compared in fine detail to the Christian Bale series, which is possibly the best superhero movie series of all time. I certainly like The Dark Knight series better than all the Avengers movies, even though Avengers movies are mostly more fun.

If BvS does well then that opens the way for Wonder Woman, and if that is handled well it can become a pretty good franchise of its own. I don't see any reason why they can't give Supergirl another try.

When you look at the list of DC movies, once you remove Superman and Batman there's piss all in the roster involving the rest of the Justice League. And they have basically sidelined the Flash and Arrow TV shows, which seem to be the most popular DC ventures outside of Batman and Superman movies. Certainly the most critically well received. It might not be too much of a stretch to say that Lois and Clarke and Smallville are the best versions of Superman told to date. Maybe there's something to the fact that TV versions of DC superheroes seem to see better success than movie versions.

The only movies I haven't seen on that Worldwide list are the last 2: Jonah Hex and The Losers. Funny that Captain America and Gamora (the actors) from the MCU were are in The Losers. Actually I think I want to see The Losers now. Jonah Hex, not so much, the mere association of Megan Fox with a movie gives it negative points without knowing anything else about it.

Will Smith as Deadshot could ruin an otherwise good movie. There are certain types of characters Will Smith can play straight, otherwise Will Smith can really only do goofball. Deadshot, I think, is not a charcter Will Smith can play straight, and he's not a character than can be done as a goofball. It's a miss cast IMO, and I like Will Smith in a lot of what he does. In his most serious roles (I am Legend, and Pursuit of Happyness) I really liked his work. But Deadshot is not like those characters. I think WIll's Deadshot is going to be badly shown up by the version DC has deliberately snubbed from Arrow by completely divorcing the TV universe from the movie universe.

I'm pretty much guaranteed to see Batman Vs Superman, but Suicide Squad is a maybe/probably for now.

The universe will change that. The problem is that DC heroes are incredibly bland in the forms they've taken before Batman Begins. There's a reason they tried for Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern; they needed to try and use somebody with character to make the hero seem relevant.

They struck gold with the Dark Knight trilogy for the masses, and MoS for the character. They're giving souls to otherwise flat characters and developing them in new ways.

It's simple really. Marvel Studios movies appeal to the masses because they are lighthearted entertainment. They are the 80's adventure movies of our times. DC's darker tone doesn't really appeal as much to the masses, so they don't make as much money... yet.

I don't think they were off to a stellar start with MoS, which was pretty average and felt more like a low tier Marvel movie so we have to see if Batman can save the DCU and convince people they are worth watching. Marvel on the otherhand started with Iron-Man which is still considered one of their biggest and best films by many, so they had a strong foothold and had further success with the Avengers which has convinced people to keep watching them.

 I have a good ammount of faith in Will Smith. He's played all sorts of characters in his career, and I don't think he's ever done a bad job in a role. Like even when the movie sucks (Independence Day, After Earth, etc.) his character still ends up being good, and the best parts of those films. 

because their characters arent really interesting. there, i said it.

They don't like taking chances with a lot of other characters is one problem. And then when the movie messes up. It takes them years to try something else. So, by the time they reached another movie. Marvel has gone through 5. And setup a connected universe. People like consistancy. Even if the movie fails. You gotta go on to something else. Incredible Hulk is considered the poor movie. If he was on DC. Then only Iron Man movies would of been made. While nothing else would of been done. Marvel continued with Cap, Thor etc. and didn't really care if that was a miss.

DC is even more stupid. Since the entire property line is owned by WB. No BS issues with rights and so forth. You'd think they have an easier time.