ps3-sales! said: Why are you condemning him for his opinion? That's pretty ignorant. Christians don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle; you act as if that's news? |
Lifestyle? Is heterosexuality also a 'lifestyle'?
ps3-sales! said: Why are you condemning him for his opinion? That's pretty ignorant. Christians don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle; you act as if that's news? |
Lifestyle? Is heterosexuality also a 'lifestyle'?
Wright said:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od4e0qP4vvk
And perhaps it is a sin, in his interpretation of the Bible.
The problem only really starts when he uses that interpretation of the Bible to try to control other people, rather than just expressing his opinion. Yes, he probably does some stuff that others would consider sinful as well.
Religious opinion only becomes a problem when it has state power behind it.
Max King of the Wild said:
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Geez. I'll have to check this with time.
Leviticus 19:28 "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD."
Are people who have tattoos allowed in the bible club? Are they chastised, driven from the church, called sinners who will burn in hell for their lifestyles? Of course not, but why are homosexuals? People who get tattoos are making a conscious decision to defy the lord against clear words in the bible. Homosexuals are created different, they are following their nature and don't have the luxury of choice as people who mark their bodies clearly do.
So why do Christian fundamentalists condemn homosexuals who didn't choose to be gay but look the other way when people show up to church with tattoos & other body modifications like piercings that they clearly choose to have? It seems like a double standard that is driven by ignorance & hate.
As a Christian this made me gag.
Although, this isn't really a horrible thing to think this way like some people paint it to be. It's not like he wants to kill the man for being gay, it's not like he wants to throw the guy in a zoo for being gay, etc. He just disagrees with what the guy has chosen. I know it may seem absurd to many people on VGC, but don't try to paint it out as some horrible thing that means what it doesn't.
Still, it's funny to see a Sports Station actually discussing something other than sports and failing at it.
Kantor said: And perhaps it is a sin, in his interpretation of the Bible. The problem only really starts when he uses that interpretation of the Bible to try to control other people, rather than just expressing his opinion. Yes, he probably does some stuff that others would consider sinful as well. Religious opinion only becomes a problem when it has state power behind it. |
Or mob power. Or society pressure. Or employers.
The state isn't the only instance that has the power to restrict freedom.
Why is this the only point of view being posted here? What about all of the positive support he got from players, coaches, the commissioner and even other christians?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kobe-bryant-bill-clinton-david-stern-others-support-163319934.html
Golden State Warriors coach Mark Jackson: "As a Christian man, I have beliefs of what's right and what's wrong. That being said, I know Jason Collins, I know his family and I'm certainly praying for them at this time."
People have different views. At least the ESPN journalist is staying true to his beliefs and isn't some typical "I'll be Christian when I feel like it" American. In fact, the overwhelming amount of support Jason's gotten is astounding and should be what we focus our discussion on, because this is clearly illustrating a positive shift in the culture of America.
I just finished watching 42 story of Jackie Robinson the first black person to play in major baseball league .
It just happen this is the same thing, one of the scene was marvellous, a father talk to is kid about is brother who was on the Jackie Robinson team.
and jackie enter the field and everyone was yelling N***** Boo* etc. The kid looked around people screaming. He didn't know what was happening and he started screaming N*****.
the scene was really strong.
and then is brother start speaking to Jackie and give him a bro hug just to let know everyone who know him who he really was.
and the kid just stop yelling, knowing it was wrong.
the Bible changed its mind about black people in 1978, 2013 or 2014 should be a great year to change is stupid mind about gay people.
or you'll be really s**** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-YCdcnf_P8
chris_wing said: Leviticus 19:28 "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD." Are people who have tattoos allowed in the bible club? Are they chastised, driven from the church, called sinners who will burn in hell for their lifestyles? Of course not, but why are homosexuals? People who get tattoos are making a conscious decision to defy the lord against clear words in the bible. Homosexuals are created different, they are following their nature and don't have the luxury of choice as people who mark their bodies clearly do. So why do Christian fundamentalists condemn homosexuals who didn't choose to be gay but look the other way when people show up to church with tattoos & other body modifications like piercings that they clearly choose to have? It seems like a double standard that is driven by ignorance & hate. |
The church can have extreme double standards. It's so painfully obvious that certain "Christians" aren't who they really say they are.