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We'll be culled...

True 4 25.00%
 
False 12 75.00%
 
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We could choose to use AI to eliminate the need for corporate executives like CEOs. After all AI is designed to eliminate white collar jobs, and what is more white collar than a corporate executive?



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ArchangelMadzz said:

In a perfect world we'd have AI do all the jobs keeping the world and society going and then we can do art, make movies, games music and all the human creativity things we're good at.

Or at least all work 1-2 hours a day with AI filling the rest.

Yet we've just been instead using AI to make that art and firing people and putting the workload on everyone else.

Republicans are already putting in minimum hours worked requirements for medicaid, so when the AI takes most jobs, it won't have to cover them.



AI could concentrate wealth and weaken workers’ bargaining power, sure. I mean, it deserves serious preparation. But predicting an organised 'culling' requires evidence that I don't think anyone on a gaming site would have lol.

If you look at The International Labour Organization, it estimates that one in four workers has some sort of exposure to generative AI, while 3.3% of global employment falls into its highest exposure category. Exposure doesn't mean unemployment though and the report considers job transformation more likely than complete replacement. There is no established deadline for complete automation or defensible percentage chance of an elite extermination program. Reactions to AI all sound so Terminatory lolol. We've seeen too many movies!

Governments are responding, however. Britain targets AI training for ten million workers by 2030; Singapore provides eligible unemployed workers temporary financial support; and the EU regulates AI, including employment applications although these measures I don't think guarantee adequate protection. America’s Medicaid work requirements could warrant criticism I suppose, but that's a whole other issue.

Neither shorter working days nor widespread deprivation follows automatically from technological progress. Ownership, taxation, public services and worker protections (among many other smaller things) influence who benefits. Automating executives would not automatically redistribute ownership, either. We could demand enforceable protections and shared productivity gains, rather than assume either benevolence or extermination.

To scope it down gently lol, our right to live cannot depend on whether employers need our labour.



LegitHyperbole said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

In a perfect world we'd have AI do all the jobs keeping the world and society going and then we can do art, make movies, games music and all the human creativity things we're good at.

Or at least all work 1-2 hours a day with AI filling the rest.

Yet we've just been instead using AI to make that art and firing people and putting the workload on everyone else.

A perfect world indeed. However this world is declining to support all of us. I'd never trust an elite to be on the side of people who are in the way of their own health and now that they will soon have complete automation and even entertainment....argh, maybe I'm a cynic more than I knew. 

Unfortunately it is what capitalism encourages. It's an old repeating story. 

10 people process 20 bags per hour. 

A machine comes along that doubles everyone's efficiency. 

Ideally 10 people either make 40 bags per hour with double the pay, or only work half as much.

But what actually happens is 5 people get let go and the other 5 continue to make 20 bags per hour with the same wage.



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JackHandy said:

In this dystopian scenario, the masses would charge the gates and put their heads on pikes. So I imagine, even if this were their goal, the outcome would be far more tolerable for the common man than just... go die somewhere, lil' Johnny.

A virus. People would ignore it no matter how bad it seems before it's too late.  

ireadtabloids said:

There’s a big difference between being paid to defend the powerful, and being willing to participate in random slaughter.
I think you would find if the powerful pushed for that, most of the military forces would resist and suddenly they would have a powerful military force against them. Many who would otherwise be on their side would surrender arms.

No need to do that when you’re already comfortable. They’re not motivated to threaten their own position.

A virus. Noone would take it seriously after the last one. 



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Mace winduuuuuuu fell out of a window Where did he go?

This is the ear worm designed to take down the population. It has an R0 of 14 and once it infects the patient they slowly go delirious from the track playing on repeat in their mind and eventually fall out a window.



Embodied intelligence needs to be a lot further along than it is for this to happen. Decent embodied intelligence is probably still 5-7 years out. 

If we get super-intelligent non-embodied systems before we get embodied intelligent systems, then "the elites" are probably going to be no more. An AI-induced Great Depression, which seems like an inevitability, will kill capitalism. 

Then the major problems with AI resolve themselves as we move to a new socio-economic system where people can sustain their lives without laboring or pretending to labor. 



ArchangelMadzz said:

In a perfect world we'd have AI do all the jobs keeping the world and society going and then we can do art, make movies, games music and all the human creativity things we're good at.

Or at least all work 1-2 hours a day with AI filling the rest.

Yet we've just been instead using AI to make that art and firing people and putting the workload on everyone else.

And it’s all either AI girls that attract thirsty comments, or uncanny valley cartoons espousing some absolute shit takes.