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twintail said:
EricHiggin said:

My guess at the moment, based on SNY saying not so long ago that they had RAM secured for at least a year so price increases shouldn't be a worry for quite a while, along with just how much the prices increased and so soon, is that SNY is actually doing 1 of 2 things.

1. Extending the gen to 2030 ish and making room for a cheaper hardware tier, for a 26/27 PS5 hybrid, at $399-$499.
or
2. Sacrificing some late gen PS5 sales to get a better idea of how much they can, or should, price the 27/28 PS6 hybrid and console. ($499 & $749 ?)

Seems to me that they want to start covering the costs of RAM supply after the allotment they got. This is a long term problem that may only get worse.

This would fall under #2.

RAM doesn't really make sense based on what SNY said prior for prices to go up so much so fast. Now if SNY believes RAM is going to become a considerable problem in the future however, based on how strong PS5 sales have been in general, it wouldn't be the worst move business wise to bump the prices up now. This way you get people used to and as comfortable with those prices as they can be, in advance for PS6 and how much it will likely cost. XB Series prices have been sky high for a while, and rumors are XB Helix is going to be $1000-$1500, so SNY has a bunch of excuses to fall back on for this price hike, even if they're only partially/slightly true.

If future RAM prices become a problem for SNY, they will have already made a bunch more money up front from all the console sales from now until then, assuming PS5 sales don't tank. If RAM prices don't end up as much of a problem in the future, then that's just more PS5 profits. If RAM prices unexpectedly drop quickly, then it's just all money in the bank, plus PS6 could look cheap at launch depending on how SNY priced it, leading to a strong start next gen.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

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Well, the PS5 just shot up the Amazon rankings. Clearly people are trying to get the jump and buy it now before the price goes up.



EricHiggin said:
twintail said:

Seems to me that they want to start covering the costs of RAM supply after the allotment they got. This is a long term problem that may only get worse.

This would fall under #2.

RAM doesn't really make sense based on what SNY said prior for prices to go up so much so fast. Now if SNY believes RAM is going to become a considerable problem in the future however, based on how strong PS5 sales have been in general, it wouldn't be the worst move business wise to bump the prices up now. This way you get people used to and as comfortable with those prices as they can be, in advance for PS6 and how much it will likely cost. XB Series prices have been sky high for a while, and rumors are XB Helix is going to be $1000-$1500, so SNY has a bunch of excuses to fall back on for this price hike, even if they're only partially/slightly true.

If future RAM prices become a problem for SNY, they will have already made a bunch more money up front from all the console sales from now until then, assuming PS5 sales don't tank. If RAM prices don't end up as much of a problem in the future, then that's just more PS5 profits. If RAM prices unexpectedly drop quickly, then it's just all money in the bank, plus PS6 could look cheap at launch depending on how SNY priced it, leading to a strong start next gen.

Sure, I see what you're saying. I suppose I don't think it's being done primarily to better set up the PS6 price, but it's a valid point that is closely enough linked to what I was saying that I can agree.



Soundwave said:

Saw this posted on a different forum and couldn't help buy laugh/cry (lol). Remember these days:

The GameCube was younger than the PS5/XBS is now at this point too, lmao (this would be 2006 I believe before the Wii launched). 

In 2003 I still had to pay €144 for the GameCube... okay, Metroid Prime was included.

My cheapest console (by hindsight) was my PS4 Pro... €1.76 per month of usage.
Bought it for €399 at launch date (November 10th 2016), sold it for €300 in June 2021, when I got a PS5 (disc version) for €485.

Currently my PS5 (disc version) is in its 57th month of usage, so monthly costs are €8.50 (so far). If I would sell it now for (f.e.) €400, the remaining monthly costs would be down to €1.49, beating the PS4 Pro.



curl-6 said:

I'm genuinely morbidly curious to see where Helix and PS6 land price wise, in a world where a base current gen console is $650 and a Pro is $900.

Surely there comes a point where you're locking out so much of your audience that you may as well just take a big loss to ensure people can actually buy your product.

Unless prices calm down, I am going $999 for the ps6.  And if the Helix is 48 gb ram, $1500+.



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PS6 at $1000 would be more like a "PS5 Pro Pro" and sell less than 40 million lifetime unless it returns to old generations' pricing trajectory (prices drop as the generation goes).

If it really is a $1000 console, then they should continue to produce tens of millions of PS5's years into PS6's cycle, or suffer a significant decline in most metrics.



Kyuu said:

PS6 at $1000 would be more like a "PS5 Pro Pro" and sell less than 40 million lifetime unless it returns to old generations' pricing trajectory (prices drop as the generation goes).

If it really is a $1000 console, then they should continue to produce tens of millions of PS5's years into PS6's cycle, or suffer a decline in most metrics.

Well the ps6 will be a ps5 pro pro.  It will have a more ram, better cpu and better gpu.  The ps5 was more powerful and more expensive than the ps4 pro...  why wouldn't the ps6 follow suit?  Why would the ps6 be less powerful and cheaper?



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What do people think the actual Bill of Components are for the PS5?



Chrkeller said:
Kyuu said:

PS6 at $1000 would be more like a "PS5 Pro Pro" and sell less than 40 million lifetime unless it returns to old generations' pricing trajectory (prices drop as the generation goes).

If it really is a $1000 console, then they should continue to produce tens of millions of PS5's years into PS6's cycle, or suffer a decline in most metrics.

Well the ps6 will be a ps5 pro pro.  It will have a more ram, better cpu and better gpu.  The ps5 was more powerful and more expensive than the ps4 pro...  why wouldn't the ps6 follow suit?

Because $1000 is too expensive for a mass market product. They can't possibly replicate PS5's success with that model. $1000 is an enthusiast device.



Kyuu said:
Chrkeller said:

Well the ps6 will be a ps5 pro pro.  It will have a more ram, better cpu and better gpu.  The ps5 was more powerful and more expensive than the ps4 pro...  why wouldn't the ps6 follow suit?

Because $1000 is too expensive for a mass market product.

iPhone sales beg to differ.

"As of early 2026, iPhone Pro and Pro Max models dominate Apple's sales, accounting for over 50% of new iPhone series purchases. With total annual iPhone shipments often exceeding 230 million units, this indicates well over 100 million Pro models are sold annually".

It's just a matter of priorities (and lack of cheaper alternatives of other platforms with similar performance).