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LurkerJ said:

Not long ago, the right threw a hissy fit over this ad. Even Elon Musk jumped in and made silly comments. Check the YouTube comments section for how vile and triggered people were over it. 

I'll try to be consistent and say the same thing for both ads, they grabbed my attention. Prior to seeing either ad, I had no idea that Jaguar was about to unveil a new lineup of cars, and I never thought about American Eagle as a place where I can buy clothes. So well done both? 

Pop Culture was regularly guilty of being controversial, maybe we're just heading back to how things were not long ago, for good or bad, depending on your perspective. 

Elon being an idiot doesn't mean this was a good ad. I didn't even realize it was for the Jaguar automobile brand at first and I wasn't alone. The Jaguar vehicles were barely featured, it looked like a fashion show. Advertising is supposed to expand the audience for a product while maintaining the existing consumer base. Too often, at least in the past 5 to 10 years. Advertising targets a new audience with no consideration of how it will effect the existing one. Jaguar is a luxury automobile brand with a traditionally conservative consumer base. This type of ad was a recipe for disaster.  



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Curious case of the Streisand effect. An inconsequential thing most people would have never heard of if it weren't for the outrage. Also, it's not like the "Great/Perfect Jeans" pun hasn't been used before. Godfather of denim, Adriano Goldschmied, owns a brand called Superior Jeans. But, I bet few to no one else here had ever heard of this brand before.
https://superior-jeans.com



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Dante9 said:

This is so stupid that it's unreal. Sure, if you're so deep in your weird rabbit hole that you see "dog whistles" everywhere, then I guess you can find them anywhere. But it's bordering on psychosis at this point.
I think there's also projection going on here. For normal people, if you have a commercial with a majority model, it is not an attack on minorities, it just is what it is. But in THEIR world, everything is about inclusion or exclusion and even "inclusion" through exclusion, so in their minds a normal commercial is a slight or an insult if the model is not from their preferred group. Everything is a war to them, because they are indoctrinated.

Yeah the outrage is silly, nobody would have batted an eye if this ad came out in say 2013.

If you look at this:

And see Nazism, you need to go outside, touch grass, and realize that not everything needs to be culture war nonsense.

The extent to which people obsess over race and politics has gotten beyond ridiculous.



Darc Requiem said:
LurkerJ said:

Not long ago, the right threw a hissy fit over this ad. Even Elon Musk jumped in and made silly comments. Check the YouTube comments section for how vile and triggered people were over it. 

I'll try to be consistent and say the same thing for both ads, they grabbed my attention. Prior to seeing either ad, I had no idea that Jaguar was about to unveil a new lineup of cars, and I never thought about American Eagle as a place where I can buy clothes. So well done both? 

Pop Culture was regularly guilty of being controversial, maybe we're just heading back to how things were not long ago, for good or bad, depending on your perspective. 

Elon being an idiot doesn't mean this was a good ad. I didn't even realize it was for the Jaguar automobile brand at first and I wasn't alone. The Jaguar vehicles were barely featured, it looked like a fashion show. Advertising is supposed to expand the audience for a product while maintaining the existing consumer base. Too often, at least in the past 5 to 10 years. Advertising targets a new audience with no consideration of how it will effect the existing one. Jaguar is a luxury automobile brand with a traditionally conservative consumer base. This type of ad was a recipe for disaster.  

I don't disagree that the Jaguar ad sucks, but one of the metrics of a successful ad is getting people to watch it and talk about it. In an age in which attention is a very expensive currency, I think it's an achievement that we're talking about either ad campaigns. And while the Jaguar ad sucks, one cannot ignore that the negative reactions were majorly fuelled by the crowd that shouts and ready to go off "go-woke-go-broke" at the slightest hint of "diversity". As someone who has been critical of the left in the last 10 years for their overzealous policing of thoughts, I just can't see how the anti-DEI crowd isn't much worse in their trigger-ability and stupidity. 

As for the Jaguar ad being a recipe for a disaster, I see a lot of bad ads by Apple, and not every Nintendo ad is my cup of tea either, but they hardly influence my buying decision. I don't know if Jaguar went bust because of that ad. Maybe something for me to look into. 

All these corporations are full of shit anyway. They will fly the LGBT flag when the vibe is right, and they will burn them down the minute they think it's going to become inconvenient to their bottom line. 



LurkerJ said:
Darc Requiem said:

Elon being an idiot doesn't mean this was a good ad. I didn't even realize it was for the Jaguar automobile brand at first and I wasn't alone. The Jaguar vehicles were barely featured, it looked like a fashion show. Advertising is supposed to expand the audience for a product while maintaining the existing consumer base. Too often, at least in the past 5 to 10 years. Advertising targets a new audience with no consideration of how it will effect the existing one. Jaguar is a luxury automobile brand with a traditionally conservative consumer base. This type of ad was a recipe for disaster.  

I don't disagree that the Jaguar ad sucks, but one of the metrics of a successful ad is getting people to watch it and talk about it. In an age in which attention is a very expensive currency, I think it's an achievement that we're talking about either ad campaigns. And while the Jaguar ad sucks, one cannot ignore that the negative reactions were majorly fuelled by the crowd that shouts and ready to go off "go-woke-go-broke" at the slightest hint of "diversity". As someone who has been critical of the left in the last 10 years for their overzealous policing of thoughts, I just can't see how the anti-DEI crowd isn't much worse in their trigger-ability and stupidity. 

As for the Jaguar ad being a recipe for a disaster, I see a lot of bad ads by Apple, and not every Nintendo ad is my cup of tea either, but they hardly influence my buying decision. I don't know if Jaguar went bust because of that ad. Maybe something for me to look into. 

All these corporations are full of shit anyway. They will fly the LGBT flag when the vibe is right, and they will burn them down the minute they think it's going to become inconvenient to their bottom line. 

Jaguar sales tanked after their new ad campaign. It was a catastrophic decline. 97.5% decline to be more specifc. People raging online isn't necessarily a reflection of general sentiment. However, in the case of Jaguar, the general reaction was not good. If a company rolls out an ad campaign that tanks their sales. The ad campaign bad. At this point, I don't care about whatever buzzword people toss around. DEI, Woke, etc. They get tossed around ad nauseum until they lose all meaning. What's the reality of the situation? That's the only thing that matters. People have raged on line about things that have done well. The problem I see with ads on the whole is that companies often assume the online reaction reflects reaction of the general public. Sometime it's the vocal minority and sometimes it's the canary in the coal mine that signals a need to change course. 

https://autos.yahoo.com/articles/jaguars-wild-electric-gt-range-153700079.html



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In the end it says she has "great jeans".

But you see, "jeans" sounds like "genes". Therefore nazi.

Wow. The mental gymnastics. People crying culturally insensitive over this are beyond me. Did not even cross my mind that they would secretly refer to her genes. But if it did, I would have thought it a reference to her boobs.

Anybody thinking she should not do that because of her skin colour, blond hair and blue eyes, gives way too much of a f* about race. That this is anything but a benign ad for jeans, let alone a nazi dog whistle, sounds like a conspiracy theory.



Been over enough of the Internet. And, from what I see, this is just another case of manufactured outrage.

In other words, the outrage is a straw man. There’s a huge amount of outrage/counter-outrage over that straw man outrage, others trying to explain why this imaginary outrage might occur, and a few social media virtue signallers taking up the cause of the straw man. Most people are just commenting and making jokes over this manufactured outrage.

It’s the Madonna effect, a lot of news about outrage over some supposedly controversial song she released, and yet that outrage is almost nowhere to be found.

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Darc Requiem said:
LurkerJ said:

I don't disagree that the Jaguar ad sucks, but one of the metrics of a successful ad is getting people to watch it and talk about it. In an age in which attention is a very expensive currency, I think it's an achievement that we're talking about either ad campaigns. And while the Jaguar ad sucks, one cannot ignore that the negative reactions were majorly fuelled by the crowd that shouts and ready to go off "go-woke-go-broke" at the slightest hint of "diversity". As someone who has been critical of the left in the last 10 years for their overzealous policing of thoughts, I just can't see how the anti-DEI crowd isn't much worse in their trigger-ability and stupidity. 

As for the Jaguar ad being a recipe for a disaster, I see a lot of bad ads by Apple, and not every Nintendo ad is my cup of tea either, but they hardly influence my buying decision. I don't know if Jaguar went bust because of that ad. Maybe something for me to look into. 

All these corporations are full of shit anyway. They will fly the LGBT flag when the vibe is right, and they will burn them down the minute they think it's going to become inconvenient to their bottom line. 

Jaguar sales tanked after their new ad campaign. It was a catastrophic decline. 97.5% decline to be more specifc. People raging online isn't necessarily a reflection of general sentiment. However, in the case of Jaguar, the general reaction was not good. If a company rolls out an ad campaign that tanks their sales. The ad campaign bad. At this point, I don't care about whatever buzzword people toss around. DEI, Woke, etc. They get tossed around ad nauseum until they lose all meaning. What's the reality of the situation? That's the only thing that matters. People have raged on line about things that have done well. The problem I see with ads on the whole is that companies often assume the online reaction reflects reaction of the general public. Sometime it's the vocal minority and sometimes it's the canary in the coal mine that signals a need to change course. 

https://autos.yahoo.com/articles/jaguars-wild-electric-gt-range-153700079.html

Thank you for the information above.

I've just had a look online to see exactly how a company can have almost 100% decline in sales after an ad campaign, there is a lot more to the story than just the ads being bad. 

Jaguar effectively halted production of ALL of their cars, and that decision was made way before the ad campaign rolled out. Early 2024 to be specific. Jaguar intentionally ceased production of nearly all its internal combustion models months before launching its new ad campaign. That means dealerships had minimal or no inventory before the new ads even released. 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a60075224/jaguar-gas-cars-production-ending/ March 2024

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/business/jaguar-has-stopped-building-xe-xf-and-f-type-i-pace-and-e-pace-stop-decJuly 2024

the sales slump is due to a planned production hiatus until their EV line up is ready, that was inevitably going to affect the numbers in 2025. Now, whether we think this is a good business decision or a bad one is a separate matter, but it's clearly not tied to the ad campaign.

then you have the Jaguar Land Rover line that was heavily impacted by Trump's tariff, shipments to the US were paused for an entire month, and when shipments resumed, they started selling them at a higher price. Looking further, this doesn't seem to be relevant since the 97.5% decline you quoted doesn't include the Land Rover cars, which makes sense, the decline only affected cars that went into production hiatus. 

Happy to be corrected as I am not an expert, but really it doesn't seem like the cryptic online ad campaign wasn't all that significant. The ads were for cars that are not going to be ready until 2026 anyway, and they were released online months after the critical business decisions have been made.

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The Daily Show really hit it out of the park with this one. 10/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWnHWbeeFxA

A brilliant coincidence that this happened to be Desi Lydic's week of hosting the show.



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Tober said:
RolStoppable said:

From the description of the ads, they look like a deliberate dog whistle. The easiest way to prove the woke mob wrong would be to make another few ads with women from other ethnicities.

As for the question why the woke mob sees propaganda in just about everything, it's because the USA has currently a far-right government that has made it a central part of its messaging that whiteness is inherently superior, and that companies who don't fall in line with this messaging can face punishment in one form or another. The same administration is also building detention centers and has deported US citizens without due process. There are plenty of parallels to Nazi Germany already and the current trajectory is to have even more of them.

Isn't the point that people who broke immigration law get expelled from a country. If I overstay my Visa or not had one in the first place being in a country, I don't think people would consider me a citizen of that country. And I would fully expect to be kicked out when caught. At least that what happens in every other country in the world. Now I can be wrong and actual American Citizens are deported, but never heard of that before.

>Revoke visas from perfectly legal immigrants 

>Send immigrants without visas to prison

>Deport them to concentration camps in El Salvador 

>Profit 

Also, is op really going to pretend they never heard of eugenics? I mean, I'm sure at least a handful of the articles they linked mention that while explaining the controversy.