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Cobretti2 said:
SvennoJ said:

Well for comparison, here in Canada:

Switch launched at CAD 399, BotW CAD 80 for physical edition
Switch 2 is set to launch at CAD 629 (+58%), physical games are not priced yet $80 USD is currently CAD 111 (+39%)

Canada inflation from 2017 to now is 25.7% (According to Bank of Canada)

So Nintendo prices are going up over double the inflation rate here for the console, 150% over for games.

And no discounted Nintendo games here, second hand only.


(Correction, MKW is $80 in USD)

What was a WiiU game? In Australia, the price has kind of been the same for the last 2 generations, so no inflectional increases till now.

WiiU games were CAD 50. With the Canadian dollar losing value since the PS4 launch, electronics have been getting more expensive here for years. Hence we're already up to CAD 90 ps5/Series games (from CAD 60 10 years ago) as well as console price increases.

So people are pretty tired already of the continuously rising prices.



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Pemalite said:

But what makes profits even more irrelevant is... When a company is literally backed into a corner, that is often where we see the most innovation, the most risks. - Do you think we would have gotten the Switch like we did if the WiiU went gangbusters? No. And as consumers we would be worst for it.

Rather what we are getting is the exact same games at a higher price and I honestly hope Nintendo see's a significant reduction in sales from it, consumers do vote with their wallets, they have voted against Nintendo using their wallets before. (See: Virtual Boy, Gamecube, WiiU and more.)

And Nintendo would have no one to blame but themselves.

But when we have people like yourself who would rather promote Nintendo's billions that it's taking from consumers through high prices and then channeling it to shareholders and not their games? That is where the real issue lays.

We aren't getting better consoles. We aren't getting better games. We aren't getting a better service out of the higher price. It's the shareholders who are reaping the rewards.


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In other news, Sony is also raising the price of the Playstation 5 in a heap of regions, which is also an anti-consumer move and I hope Sony falters for doing just that.

And when Microsoft does the same, they also deserve the same level of ridicule and ire for a similar anti-consumer move.

How could you possibly know that? If anything, Switch idea was already in its natural course to be executed long before they realise how terrible WiiU was doing.

The Wii U fiasco was the reason they need to rush the Switch release instead to take the time to refine it.

I agree that re-releasing the games with higher prices than the Switch 1 version is a shit move and I hope they get humbled for that, but only on that part. Lets not extrapolate things to make a point. Other than that, they are only hitting the right notes with Switch 2: The system is brilliant and the newest entries are top material

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I just saw from other sites that the price was $80 for digitial and $90 for phyiscal 

If you want to play the new Nintendo Switch 2 Mario Kart, prepare your wallet: the physical edition will cost $90 - Meristation

this is just one example, i also saw youtube videos mentioning this price as well. BTW, I live in China, however, im American.



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SvennoJ said:

Well for comparison, here in Canada:

Switch launched at CAD 399, BotW CAD 80 for physical edition
Switch 2 is set to launch at CAD 629 (+58%), physical games are not priced yet $80 USD is currently CAD 111 (+39%)

Canada inflation from 2017 to now is 25.7% (According to Bank of Canada)

So Nintendo prices are going up over double the inflation rate here for the console, 150% over for games.

And no discounted Nintendo games here, second hand only.


(Correction, MKW is $80 in USD)

The situation is even worse in Canada. -_-



Ashadelo said:

I just saw from other sites that the price was $80 for digitial and $90 for phyiscal 

If you want to play the new Nintendo Switch 2 Mario Kart, prepare your wallet: the physical edition will cost $90 - Meristation

this is just one example, i also saw youtube videos mentioning this price as well. BTW, I live in China, however, im American.

Nah that is fake news. In US the game is $80 for physical and digital. In other markets this may differ. There are a lot of Y-Tube channels farming outrage clicks on fake news at the moment.



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I will say it again: the hardware itself is 50 bucks more than I would have liked but the games pricing do not bother me at all.

I cannot wait to get my hands on this system.



Pemalite said:
RolStoppable said:

I appreciate that you concede that you can't be bothered to inform yourself about what's included in the Switch 2 Edition of Kirby.

Your point is completely and utterly irrelevant.

I already outlined where the prices should fall relative to their included content and extent of the port, it applies to all games releasing on the Switch 2, not just Kirby.

You aren't being clever as you think on this point.

RolStoppable said:

You are mistaken if you believe that this thread was made because there's a massive pricing problem; there isn't. What we have is a stupidity problem and an outrage culture that wants to make mountains out of molehills or at times even nothing.

You are spending an inordinate amount of time and effort defending the indefensible.

It's literally in the title of your thread, highlighting the fact you specifically don't have an issue with pricing, which insinuates that others actually do.
Otherwise it would be an irrelevant post to make.

RolStoppable said:

You keep saying that BotW and TotK have no extra content, but there is new stuff. You try to shrug off audio logs as not counting because they are played from an external app, but it's pretty wild to act as if voice actors work for free. The other features are less costly too implement, but they are more than zero effort.

We have been down this path already, the companion app is not real new content.
Other games which added that SAME CONTENT over the decades, also did it for... Get this. 100% free.

That is why the price increase isn't justified for a port of a 2 generation old game with no new content.

It's a zero effort port, Nintendo put their effort into their smart phone app.

RolStoppable said:

Profitability should be of our concern as consumers, because it greatly influences how companies make decisions. Why do you think that so many video game publishers have implemented anti-consumer practices to nickle and dime gamers? Even Nintendo was in this situation around ten years ago, for a period of time they operated at a loss. It was during this period that Nintendo tried out a multitude of approaches towards DLC packages and pricing for 3DS and Wii U games, even rolled out a couple of Pokémon titles that were free to start and had microtransactions. It was then and there that I and other Nintendo gamers could vote with our wallets, and we picked the pro-consumer path of meaty expansions instead of the nickle and diming, hence why the expansion pass became the norm for Switch games; at least for the games that have additional content, because most Nintendo games don't have it in the first place.

Nintendo has posted the biggest profits it has ever posted with the Switch era.

It did this not from higher prices, but for good games, which sold higher volumes.

Yes Nintendo failed with the WiiU, yes they failed to bring the casual audience forward with the Wii, yes the 3DS was but a shadow of the DS.
Those were Nintendo's mistakes because they weren't listening to the market, it's customers or locking it's audience into an ecosystem, price played a role in all of those to some degree.
The Ecosystem is the important bit, this is what Microsoft failed with the Xbox One... And why they couldn't transition gamers to the Xbox Series.
It's why Apple and Samsung keep churning over the same customers every year, they lock their customers into iOS or the Android ecosystems.
Buy a Samsung phone? Chances are you would buy a Samsung Smart watch, not an Apple Smart Watch.

Ecosystem.


But what makes profits even more irrelevant is... When a company is literally backed into a corner, that is often where we see the most innovation, the most risks. - Do you think we would have gotten the Switch like we did if the WiiU went gangbusters? No. And as consumers we would be worst for it.

Rather what we are getting is the exact same games at a higher price and I honestly hope Nintendo see's a significant reduction in sales from it, consumers do vote with their wallets, they have voted against Nintendo using their wallets before. (See: Virtual Boy, Gamecube, WiiU and more.)

And Nintendo would have no one to blame but themselves.

But when we have people like yourself who would rather promote Nintendo's billions that it's taking from consumers through high prices and then channeling it to shareholders and not their games? That is where the real issue lays.

We aren't getting better consoles. We aren't getting better games. We aren't getting a better service out of the higher price. It's the shareholders who are reaping the rewards.


*****

In other news, Sony is also raising the price of the Playstation 5 in a heap of regions, which is also an anti-consumer move and I hope Sony falters for doing just that.

And when Microsoft does the same, they also deserve the same level of ridicule and ire for a similar anti-consumer move.

Lots of denial in your post coupled with the suggestion that locking people into an ecosystem is important. Don't you realize how anti-consumer that suggestion is? Companies playing psychological tricks on the consumer to prevent them from choosing another company's products.

You know what you are fighting over when it comes to prices?

Breath of the Wild's MSRP on Switch 1 is still $60. The superior Switch 2 Edition's MSRP is $70.
Tears of the Kingdom's MSRP on Switch 1 is still $70. The superior Switch 2 Edition's MSRP is $80.

For this little thing you hope that Nintendo underperforms. Because Nintendo has the nerve to charge a little bit more for superior versions of their games. The funniest part is that I and probably all the people who agreed with me have no intention to rebuy the Zelda games, but you are the one who would like to spend at least $40 on games that you already own on Switch 1.



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I might've missed this but what's your general expectation for how the Switch 2 will sell Rol?



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Darashiva said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

If you own the game already, you only have to buy the upgrade to the Switch 2 version, which isn't anywhere near $80.

True, doesn't make it any less awful for those who don't own the game.

LordGustang said:

People didn't say the prices are that because many people already own the games. They said many people already own the games and thus won't care. No correlation. It doesn't get more simple than that.

I own BotW, and I still care. Just because something doesn't directly harm you doesn't mean you can't still recognize and criticize awful practices by companies. And again, just because something only applies to a small group of people doesn't make it any better.

For people who don't own the NS1 version and don't want to pay 80 for the NS2 version... they can always buy it second hand as pointed out by Conina.

They might even get the DLC included for less than 80 if they shop smart! 

RolStoppable said:

At the end of the day all the Switch 2 Editions are just a continuation of the ongoing complaint that Nintendo doesn't drop the prices of their games like the video game industry does, with no appreciation whatsoever for Nintendo making most of their profits by selling games instead of microtransactions and subscriptions. That's why Nintendo's profits are of my concern and why they also should be of yours, because we are seeing two different paths to make console gaming financially viable. Something has to give, one way or the other. I prefer to pay for games.

That in itself is the crux of the matter, the distinct monetization strategies. If Ubisoft had developed Mario Kart World, it'd probably still cost 80eur but they'd load it with microtransactions, capitalizing on the large player base. Nintendo, on the other hand, is unlikely to include microtransactions in their kart racing game and certainly not lootboxes for the custom decals that have recently come up... although there could be a DLC expansion some years down the line with additional courses from other Nintendo franchises.



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Seeing the prices go up across the board, I'm just coming to the acceptance that gaming is quickly becoming an ultra-luxury.

I'm planning on trading in my Switch for a Switch 2, but I'll only be getting a fraction of the games I would get. It's gonna have to be ones I know 100% I'll play and even replay to justify the purchase.

Sure Game Pass is by far the most affordable and consumer-friendly deal in gaming by far, but even then, I don't play enough games to justify a continuous monthly sub.



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