Pemalite said:
RolStoppable said:
I appreciate that you concede that you can't be bothered to inform yourself about what's included in the Switch 2 Edition of Kirby. |
Your point is completely and utterly irrelevant.
I already outlined where the prices should fall relative to their included content and extent of the port, it applies to all games releasing on the Switch 2, not just Kirby.
You aren't being clever as you think on this point.
RolStoppable said:
You are mistaken if you believe that this thread was made because there's a massive pricing problem; there isn't. What we have is a stupidity problem and an outrage culture that wants to make mountains out of molehills or at times even nothing. |
You are spending an inordinate amount of time and effort defending the indefensible.
It's literally in the title of your thread, highlighting the fact you specifically don't have an issue with pricing, which insinuates that others actually do. Otherwise it would be an irrelevant post to make.
RolStoppable said:
You keep saying that BotW and TotK have no extra content, but there is new stuff. You try to shrug off audio logs as not counting because they are played from an external app, but it's pretty wild to act as if voice actors work for free. The other features are less costly too implement, but they are more than zero effort. |
We have been down this path already, the companion app is not real new content. Other games which added that SAME CONTENT over the decades, also did it for... Get this. 100% free.
That is why the price increase isn't justified for a port of a 2 generation old game with no new content.
It's a zero effort port, Nintendo put their effort into their smart phone app.
RolStoppable said:
Profitability should be of our concern as consumers, because it greatly influences how companies make decisions. Why do you think that so many video game publishers have implemented anti-consumer practices to nickle and dime gamers? Even Nintendo was in this situation around ten years ago, for a period of time they operated at a loss. It was during this period that Nintendo tried out a multitude of approaches towards DLC packages and pricing for 3DS and Wii U games, even rolled out a couple of Pokémon titles that were free to start and had microtransactions. It was then and there that I and other Nintendo gamers could vote with our wallets, and we picked the pro-consumer path of meaty expansions instead of the nickle and diming, hence why the expansion pass became the norm for Switch games; at least for the games that have additional content, because most Nintendo games don't have it in the first place. |
Nintendo has posted the biggest profits it has ever posted with the Switch era.
It did this not from higher prices, but for good games, which sold higher volumes.
Yes Nintendo failed with the WiiU, yes they failed to bring the casual audience forward with the Wii, yes the 3DS was but a shadow of the DS. Those were Nintendo's mistakes because they weren't listening to the market, it's customers or locking it's audience into an ecosystem, price played a role in all of those to some degree. The Ecosystem is the important bit, this is what Microsoft failed with the Xbox One... And why they couldn't transition gamers to the Xbox Series. It's why Apple and Samsung keep churning over the same customers every year, they lock their customers into iOS or the Android ecosystems. Buy a Samsung phone? Chances are you would buy a Samsung Smart watch, not an Apple Smart Watch.
Ecosystem.
But what makes profits even more irrelevant is... When a company is literally backed into a corner, that is often where we see the most innovation, the most risks. - Do you think we would have gotten the Switch like we did if the WiiU went gangbusters? No. And as consumers we would be worst for it.
Rather what we are getting is the exact same games at a higher price and I honestly hope Nintendo see's a significant reduction in sales from it, consumers do vote with their wallets, they have voted against Nintendo using their wallets before. (See: Virtual Boy, Gamecube, WiiU and more.)
And Nintendo would have no one to blame but themselves.
But when we have people like yourself who would rather promote Nintendo's billions that it's taking from consumers through high prices and then channeling it to shareholders and not their games? That is where the real issue lays.
We aren't getting better consoles. We aren't getting better games. We aren't getting a better service out of the higher price. It's the shareholders who are reaping the rewards.
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In other news, Sony is also raising the price of the Playstation 5 in a heap of regions, which is also an anti-consumer move and I hope Sony falters for doing just that.
And when Microsoft does the same, they also deserve the same level of ridicule and ire for a similar anti-consumer move. |