Five reasons why I am not bothered by Nintendo's Switch 2 hardware and software pricing

[RolStoppable]

Pemalite said:

RolStoppable said:

The games we are talking about are labeled as Switch 2 Editions with no claims to Deluxe, Complete or Definitive.

Correct. Which is my entire damn point.
If it's going to be a higher price, it needs to be a Deluxe/Complete/Definitive edition with EVERYTHING included.

It's a re-release. - It's as simple as that.

RolStoppable said:

If you expect Super Mario Party Jamboree with additional new content to be cheaper or the same price on new hardware only half a year after its release on Switch 1, then you have very wild expectations. Likewise, the add-on content for Kirby and the Forgotten Land is brandnew.

Yes my general expectation is for games that are re-released, should be cheaper or the same price.
Clearly it's not going to happen in this instance... However I am pro-consumer, I couldn't give two rats about big business or billionaires, Nintendo's profits are not my concern, nor should they even be yours.

Yes Super Mario Party Jamboree should be cheaper or the same price, again, it's a re-release of an older game.

The Add-on content should be whatever price it is, but Kirby and the Forgotten Land should be a cheaper price for the base game, it's a last generation game.

RolStoppable said:

Both BotW and TotK are tied in with the Nintendo Switch app on smart devices with two known features so far: Guidance for things like korok seeds and audio logs spoken by Zelda that weren't in the original releases. It's one thing to be critical of prices, but it's a whole nother thing to not even make the effort to do the most basic research on the subject at hand. I'll reiterate that it's two known features so far.

That is not significant gameplay content, it's a smartphone COMPANION app that I am never going to use in the long line of other useless smartphone apps.

Halo, Forza, Grand Theft Auto, Fallout 4, Metal Gear, Dead Rising, Titanfall, Destiny, Assassins Creed Black Flag, Dying Light, Warframe and dozens and dozens more.... All had Companion apps.
They all tend to add nothing to the gameplay... And over time, developers forget they even exist anyway, no updates, no content, no bug fixes, they just get removed or become non-functional on newer devices.
PLUS THEY ARE ALL FREE.

So yes, I will go back to my original assertion that Zelda Breath of the Wild on Switch 2 should not be a higher price as it offers zero new content, the new content is on an EXTERNAL platform.

Sorry to rip you a new one here and burst your bubble, but that's the reality of it all. - This has literally all been done before in video games, never has it coincided with a Price increase.

Perhaps you should go out and do some basic research before you demand I do the same.

RolStoppable said:

The games that only have framerate and resolution bumps on Switch 2 have free updates, so there's a clear distinction between little to no effort and notable effort being put in when it comes to pricing.

There is no new content in Breath of the Wild being added.

There is no improved textures, there is no overhauled lighting, shadowing or reflections, there is no ray tracing, there is no improved models, there is no improved sound... Nintendo are just taking advantage of better hardware for the game to run better by adjusting a few lines in a text file... Just like when Nintendo brought Breath of the Wild to Switch, same amount of effort. (Which was also the same price, ironically enough.)
At-least with the WiiU to Switch port they HAD to make some effort because the hardware was completely different, this isn't happening this time.

You are defending anti-consumer practices, you are doing yourself and the entire gaming community... Especially the Nintendo gaming community a disservice by making excuses and enabling Nintendo to showcase this kind of behavior in the first place.
You are part of the problem... And you aren't even subtle about it.

RolStoppable said:

Which leaves you with Welcome Tour, a tech demo that everyone was dying to play before it was announced that it will cost something. That's the straw that is breaking the camel's back. It's this generation's 1-2-Switch.

No one is dying to play Welcome Tour.

Breaking up my post into pieces must have made you forget that it all ties together. You start by arguing that if it's a re-release sold at a higher price, it needs to include everything, then in the second portion you complain about Kirby doing exactly what you just asked for.

I don't think the Nintendo gaming community will have much of a problem with BotW and TotK on Switch 2. Chances are that they already own both games. Chances are that they've already purchased the BotW DLC. Chances are that they are already subscribed to NSO and receive Switch 2 upgrade packs as a perk. All the fuss here is first and foremost about those people who have held out for up to eight years to get Zelda for cheap and now it turns out that all those years of waiting amounted to nothing. And yeah, my sympathy for gamers who refuse to pay for great games is pretty limited.

At the end of the day all the Switch 2 Editions are just a continuation of the ongoing complaint that Nintendo doesn't drop the prices of their games like the video game industry does, with no appreciation whatsoever for Nintendo making most of their profits by selling games instead of microtransactions and subscriptions. That's why Nintendo's profits are of my concern and why they also should be of yours, because we are seeing two different paths to make console gaming financially viable. Something has to give, one way or the other. I prefer to pay for games.