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Will play 9 18.00%
 
Will not play 26 52.00%
 
Will play on sale 12 24.00%
 
I don't like Dragon age. 3 6.00%
 
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Chrkeller said:

The DEI doesn't bother me. I'm concerned about the standard deviation of reviews. Seems like many think it is bad and others love it.

Yeah same here. But that EA messes with review codes to skew early averages is very bad. And even with that you got bad reviews. How will it be once people can buy the game regularly for their reviews?

And I really want to play a good RPG, I am not sitting here hoping for a failure.



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EnricoPallazzo said:

I am curious to watch a positive review about it just so I can see how some reviewers are approaching some of the game flaws.

Picked a 100 from Metacritic:

https://butwhytho.net/2024/10/dragon-age-the-veilguard-review/



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Mnementh said:
Chrkeller said:

The DEI doesn't bother me. I'm concerned about the standard deviation of reviews. Seems like many think it is bad and others love it.

Yeah same here. But that EA messes with review codes to skew early averages is very bad. And even with that you got bad reviews. How will it be once people can buy the game regularly for their reviews?

And I really want to play a good RPG, I am not sitting here hoping for a failure.

Agreed.  Hard to find good RPGs these days.  I'm hoping the next Elder Scrolls is excellent.



Mnementh said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

I am curious to watch a positive review about it just so I can see how some reviewers are approaching some of the game flaws.

Picked a 100 from Metacritic:

https://butwhytho.net/2024/10/dragon-age-the-veilguard-review/

I read the whole thing and wow, this is a very shallow review. Almost as if written by AI.

There are so many bad aspects of the game that I have seen in videos and nothing is mentioned here.

10/10? Thats crazy. Reviews became just a silly joke. 



Mnementh said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

I am curious to watch a positive review about it just so I can see how some reviewers are approaching some of the game flaws.

Picked a 100 from Metacritic:

https://butwhytho.net/2024/10/dragon-age-the-veilguard-review/

That's wild. I don't know how they can justify that with those facial animations and the direction for the voice actors. "It's a return to form for bioware". 



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Otter said:

This thread is truly a cesspit.

I can't believe I read 4 pages of grown men complaining because they gave one of the female characters more typical female proportions

People bemoaning a fantasy game for having politics when the cornerstone of most fantasy is literally politics, war and class/race systems.

If a handful of convos inclusive of modern politics make a game unplayable to you, you need some serious perspective. It's wild that there are literal wars raging and a multitude of genuine pandemics, but what's stokes the fire most in some circles is pronoun options :')

I usually don't care but it's a slap in the face with this one. It's a valid complaint to have in a FANTASY game. To me it's like taking a period piece and overlaying today's politics on top of it, it just doesn't feel right and it's our right to like it or dislike it. It's your right to disagree but it's not a "cess pit" because it's something you disagree with. 

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On the gameplay front, I'm desperately needing more RPGS to prioritise strategy over just action.



Koragg said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

With those reviews I will wait for a discount

Played Inquisition for about 20 hours and got bored, never went back

Skiip the hinterlands and side quests, most of it is nonsense. The main quest was good though imo

Considering how few/far between decent games were in 2014... Dragon Age: Inquisition was a good breath of fresh air.
I explored every single nook and cranny, did every side/fetch quest and literally 100% the game.

Visually it was a very pretty game at the time... It was Frostbite engine in it's prime compared to Veilguard where Frostbite looks dated, but very accessible to hardware... I would be surprised if I couldn't run Veilguard on my 17 year old Core 2 Quad PC.

I think the biggest surprise is that Veilguard isn't on last generation Xbox One/Playstation 4 hardware.

Compared to Dragon Age 2, Inquisition is a monumental improvement... DA2 is also another title I 100% completed.

Obviously all pale in comparison to the height that was Dragon Age: Origins, that to me is one of the best games of all time.

JRPGfan said:

I know this is abit over the top... but I honestly hope this isn't a perma ban.
We have too few people on vgchartz as is.
XL-klaudkil has been here for years.

The ban is not permanent. But perhaps it should be?
I am personally supportive of other people expressing their opinions and would rather challenge their position.

But blatant homophobia and transphobia? This is an inclusive forum, not an exclusive forum.
If you have an issue with the LGBTQI community, then that is your issue and you need to keep it to yourself rather than be a (Excuse my Australian!) dropkick/wanker.

Plus Bioware have a history of supporting diverse characters in games for decades, Mass Effect, Knights of the Old Republic, Baldurs Gate and more all had representation to some degree... It's about time that people stop being so toxic about this stuff and grow up, people are allowed to be LGBTQI.

LegitHyperbole said:

It's strange that I'm playing Baldurs Gate 3 now, it has non binary options and you can have whatever genitals you want on whatever body you want yet here they write in a line of dialogue about using pronouns and it's made the game repulsive to me. When will they learn they are doing more harm than good to LGBT. So much harm, I wish they'd cut it out.

That's your problem.
You should have literally known what to expect from a bioware game, considering they have always supported inclusive and diverse characters and backstory.

It's people attitudes like this that is actually disgusting.

JRPGfan said:

People seem to think the combat at least is pretty good in this.
So while the writing and story might not be super fantastic (going from what ppl say).

This is a "I'll try it, if it goes on a sale" level of game for me.
Once its like 15-20$, I might bite the bullet and try it.

Maybe I'm being to harsh on this.

Yeah, I am going to see how the pricing goes in terms of discounting... It's like $110 - $140 AUD. EA games plummet in price fairly rapidly.

rapsuperstar31 said:

A centrist, is someone that can play through an entire game without looking at reviews have a fantastic time, and than look to see if others enjoyed the game as much as you did just to find a bunch of people complaining about some woke shit you didn't even notice.  And than scratch your head and thinaxk what was woke about this game.

A centrist is someone who is able to weigh the arguments from progressives or conservatives and ignore both arguments or opt for the most logical argument.
A centrist is the most common political alignment there is.

A centrist for instance wouldn't care if there is or isn't an LGBTQI character, to them it's just another person with a slightly different character background origin story... They just simply don't care.

The term "woke" doesn't even enter the conversation for such individuals, because using the term "woke" is pandering to conservative political ideology which to them would just be a waste of time and energy.

But that's doesn't mean they disagree or agree with everything conservatives say or do... I for example affiliate myself with centrists in Australia and agree with conservative strict border control, but also agree with progressive energy policy of renewables because science has showcased that Climate change is actually real.

Centrists are flexible in their stances.





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Chazore said:

Welcome to a centrist pov, where you just wanna have good games and not have irl shit crammed in to remind you that you're still a part of the outside world. 

A centrist, is someone that can play through an entire game without looking at reviews have a fantastic time, and than look to see if others enjoyed the game as much as you did just to find a bunch of people complaining about some woke shit you didn't even notice.  And than scratch your head and think what was woke about this game.

That was me with TloU2. Love the game to bits, played it without any spoilers, without looking online. After I finished it I was surprised it had a lot of backlash and controversial views.

However this just looks bland. The screenshots are what turned me off first, then reading about the battle mechanics that are nothing like DA: Origins. Then the culture stuff started to come out on top.

Dunno if it's the culture war stuff that started the blow up, or is getting amplified because the game is simply not that appealing to original fans of DA. Same as turning TloU2 from a happy 'shoot everyone in the way' to a 'here are the consequences' type story had people amplify the culture war things in the game.



SvennoJ said:


Dunno if it's the culture war stuff that started the blow up, or is getting amplified because the game is simply not that appealing to original fans of DA. Same as turning TloU2 from a happy 'shoot everyone in the way' to a 'here are the consequences' type story had people amplify the culture war things in the game.

Most fans of DA are fans of DA: Inquisition. It outsold the first two games combined twice over.

That's what makes this so amusing. The chuds who just play games with anime girls coming and dissing this I get. But there were some Inquisition fans in the hate wagon too complaining not of the changed art style (which was admittedly... a strange choice, to say the least) but thinking Bioware had changed due to DEI or some nonsense.

Inquisition, you know, the game with a lesbian elf, a gay mage, a transexual mercenary, a bisexual qunari, a black French sorceress...