Obama would demolish an 82 year old Trump in an election, especially because I don't think anything can be done about inflation.

Prices of goods will still be high in 4 years, companies have no incentive to lower them whatsoever, the money folks in the government have no incentive really to want super low inflation either, the US has massive deficits which will continue under Trump and inflation *helps*. If you have large deficits and large debt, it makes it easier to pay off as a government (maybe not so if you're a consumer and have say credit card debt, but for a government that can control their currency, high inflation is actually preferable in a debt environment). 

The only way to lower prices is to have a massive recession and that obviously isn't good for an incumbent party either.

Yes. It would be different. We'd be looking at a 57-43 senate and a +20 GOP house of representatives. Trump probably would have had a real landslide election in the EC.

Kamala lost in part because she didn't distance herself from Biden enough. His favorability is below 40% currently. 

He shouldn't have ran for a second term, like he said he wouldn't when campaigning for his first.

The economy will either rebound or it won't, but likely it doesn't in terms of affordability. The same trends that exist today will exist in 4 years, quite probably even worse, the stock market and jobs rate is technically "very good" right now. Stock market has largely been hitting highs all through Biden's term. The economy on a technical level today is "good", the problem is average joes don't feel that way and the price of everything has gone up.

The part about inflation no one wants to talk about is you need a recession (and a really bad one) if you want prices to go down. No company is going to lower their prices because XYZ is president, they have their own shareholders to appease, so potato chips are going to stay expensive for a bag, eating at McDonalds is going to stay $15+ per person, grocery prices will remain sky high, etc. etc. Those high prices make for sweet, sweet high profit margins. 

When they say "inflation is coming down!" all that means is the rate of additional inflation is coming down, it doesn't mean the prices of things are getting cheaper, just they are increasing more slowly.

In 4 years we'll have a Democratic president again if people are still fed up by general unaffordability of things, as the incumbent party (Republicans) will then get blamed for not fixing it. Think the next Dem candidate will be Gavin Newsom as the Dems won't run another woman for a long time.

It sucks for people who would like to see a woman in that spot, but the fact is the Democrats are 3 for 3 out of the last 3 elections and overall 5 for 7 overall going back to Bill Clinton with male candidates at the top of the ticket. Those are pretty high win rates. 

Dems had like what, 20-25 Primary candidates, all who lost to Biden, the VP, stepping in late?

Then after one term of Biden they decide a late VP Harris is the answer?

Reps have at least 4, at least, good to go for 2032, right, after, Trump. LOL.

Idiocracy achieved. 

This basically mirrors what I said earlier but that’s not what people want to hear, they want a quick and easy answer that’s going to bring prices down to what they were 5 years ago and that’s simply not happening without a major recession like you mentioned.

The Fed succeeded in bringing inflation down without causing a recession and we have seen wages outpace inflation for the last year or so and interest rates are finally starting to come down. The problem is it was too little, too late for people to feel the effects of it going into this election.

If we continue to see ~2% inflation with ~4% wage growth and a couple more interest rate cuts then people will have their purchasing power slowly but surely return to where it was and the current prices of goods won’t feel as high anymore.

That’s one aspect that is infuriating about Trump winning, if he does go through with his crazy deportation & tariff plans then he is going to crash the economy and all the work of the Biden administration will be erased and on the other hand, if he doesn’t go through with these crazy plans then he is going to take credit for the work that happened under the Biden administration of getting inflation under control and in the next few years we will start to see the benefits of the Infrastructure, CHIPs & IRA bills and he will be able to take credit for them as well.

Gavin Newsom is someone I could agree with under ordinary circumstances.

But the GOP and evangelical church have spent the past 50 years conditioning Southerners and Midwesterners to hate California. I'd dare say they hate California more than they hate Russia. In Oklahoma, where I have the most experience with the South, "California" is practically a profanity. I'm not kidding, either. Republicans in Oklahoma regularly say the C-word to scare voters into voting for them in their speeches, SM posts, and political ads.

The only thing Vance would have to do to beat Newsom in 2028 is flash the word "California" under Newsom's picture. I'm pretty sure that didn't help Harris, either. 

People did ask you for clarification multiple times. Ryuu and I both asked you multiple questions. 

"Are you sure, the correct answer wasn't something like pull over to somewhere safe? You'd need to do that before changing your tire."

Not because I assumed I was right, but because I couldn't find anything about it. 

And I didn't make up anything. 

Here's the problem. You would rather believe that I lied, over assuming that say Ryuu was the British best friend that I asked. 

My British best friend on here is Xevross. I met him about a decade ago on VGChartz. I added him on Facebook, he no longer posts here, but I still talk to him pretty much every day. 

I never accused you of lying. I told you that my best friend hasn't heard of the law you were talking about. 

If you felt that was somehow overly antagonistic, I apologize. 

I have tried to be kind to you and engage you with good faith. 

But frankly I'm sick of you bullying people, any time anyone disagrees with you or dares to question you to get clarification. 

It's no real secret that mods tend to stick up for other mods (Not saying this to be vindictive, just from an observational standpoint). I have been on this site for years and I've barely ever seen one mod to another to get them to either back down or calm down. What I have seen from my own eyes over time, is defence and dogpile approaches and that has always resulted in backlash (I've also seen this across countless forums over the decades, unless it's 4chan, where it's a mod eat mod world over there).

Now I don't like Seeing Ryuu getting the way he is, I know he's not in the right head space right now (the back and forth's are enough to tell me this), but you mods need to actually sit down and actually talk to your community, because things as they are, are starting to break up a bit here and there. 

I've had Pem at me, and now I'm seeing Ryuu at Chr, and now I'm seeing Pi just picking what side they were already a part of (moderation). This is not painting a good look. I know you're all human just like me and everyone else, but your position on this site does not give you the last say or the moral high compass. You are 100% fallible and now is not the time to act like you are not. 

Ryuu going to someone's wall is not the best course of action, it should have been done in DM's, or off-site, because that was clearly turning into a personal matter.

Ryuu I have nothing against you mate, you're a good bean, you always have been, but this is not the time to do what you are doing, this isn't solving anything.

Please, I implore ya'll to sit down and talk about it more rationally. This is my first time peeking my head into the politics board (over the past few days I mean, I've never really thought to look into it until recently), and now I realise why people get riled up outside of it against one another. I honestly believe the politics board is a mistake to have on any site, because it often brings our irrational discussions (especially that user who was acting extremely nasty a couple of days ago that deservedly got perma'd), and brews hate for one another. 

Please, can we all just sit down, play some games and chill out for the weekend and come back to this on Monday or something?. I just feel like something is reaching a boiling point and something nasty is going to happen.

(Ryuu if you need to talk to me in DM's, I'm all ears dude). 

I'm not making this post to pick any side. I'm making this post because it's clear that this board has heated some folks up in a bad way, and it's not going anywhere good. Also this will by my last post in the Pol board. I don't want to argue within it, because I've seen what that's been like on Twitter over the yrs, and even disco servers with Pol threads.