2024 US Presidential Election

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EricHiggin said:

sc94597 said:

I am sorry 82 years is too old to start a presidential term. Biden has shown us that in how quickly he declined in the last four years. 

No offense, but the second paragraph is non-sequitur. Trump's ability to win elections despite people underestimating him has nothing to do with whether or not the global economy will improve in the next four years. You come off as a true believer making these leaps and if there is anything I've learned in the last 10 years you can't talk true believers out of their delusions about the guy. 

You still aren't getting the point made about how endorsing a candidate and being the person making the endorsement aren't the same? Why didn't Kari Lake win any of her races despite Trump endorsing her? People do like the Obamas. It is a measured fact. Their favorabilities hover in the mid to high 50's and drop down to the high 40's during tense campaign events. That is the best record for any national political entity since the start of this century. And again, I say that as somebody who voted against Obama in 2012 and who is luke-warm about him. 

Trump and Biden were said to be too old in 2020, yet that wasn't a problem apparently. Trump was said to be too old after 2020, yet here he is in 2024, after being shot for running. Does the weak, tired, 'old man' clearly have PTSD?

Kari Lake isn't running for President. She's also running in Arizona. How was Arizona's 2020 election? How's the counting going now? Done yet?

Then yours don't count either because it's not 2008 or 2012, it would be 2028, it would be the first time a third term was possible for a long time now, and Obama ain't the same. How accurate are any of the numbers or ratings period? How low were Trumps numbers in 2020 and how did he somehow win 2024 then?

Again, sorry, but:

In 4 years time, if things are going poorly, you would certainly have a point.

In 4 years time, if things have improved, why bother switching to Obama?

Sorry. I am not following your point here. You're saying that because some nebulous entity said Trump and Biden were too old in 2020 and they still became president's since that age doesn't matter at all? There is no difference between being 82 and being 74 years old? Is that really what you're trying to argue? 

What substantial difference does running for president and running for a state-wide election bring to this topic of being endorsed is different from being the endorser? 

My what don't count? I shared a favorability poll from August 2024, if that is what you are talking about?

I already answered the last two questions. You didn't like them. 

Anyway. This is a pointless hypothetical. Fortunately we have the 22nd Amendment and the GOP probably will be finding itself in the same place when Trump can't run again that the Democratic Party found itself in when Obama couldn't. A party with an identity but without the candidate that made that identity. 

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