2024 US Presidential Election

[EricHiggin]

sc94597 said:

EricHiggin said:

The Dems and MSM already tried this. They said Trump would be too old to run again back then. They even tried to indirectly convince people Trump and Biden were too old during the Rep primaries but when people didn't buy it they kept backing Biden, until he finally broke live at the debate.

Things aren't going to improve? Like Trump will never win 2016? Like Trumps done since he lost 2020? Like Biden is good for a second term? Like Kamala can beat Trump?

If people like the Obama's so much, when they told them to vote for Kamala because they believed in her and stood behind her, why didn't they vote for her?

The thirteen keys which has an amazing record even predicted Kamala should definitely win which had Lichtman convinced, was even wrong.

Barack has lost a few steps already and look how much younger he is than Trump. Barack just doesn't have now what made him Prez back then.

If things weren't going so well in 4 years however, then yes, Obama could beat Trump.

I am sorry 82 years is too old to start a presidential term. Biden has shown us that in how quickly he declined in the last four years. 

No offense, but the second paragraph is non-sequitur. Trump's ability to win elections despite people underestimating him has nothing to do with whether or not the global economy will improve in the next four years. You come off as a true believer making these leaps and if there is anything I've learned in the last 10 years you can't talk true believers out of their delusions about the guy. 

You still aren't getting the point made about how endorsing a candidate and being the person making the endorsement aren't the same? Why didn't Kari Lake win any of her races despite Trump endorsing her? People do like the Obamas. It is a measured fact. Their favorabilities hover in the mid to high 50's and drop down to the high 40's during tense campaign events. That is the best record for any national political entity since the start of this century. And again, I say that as somebody who voted against Obama in 2012 and who is luke-warm about him. 

Trump and Biden were said to be too old in 2020, yet that wasn't a problem apparently. Trump was said to be too old after 2020, yet here he is in 2024, after being shot for running. Does the weak, tired, 'old man' clearly have PTSD?

Kari Lake isn't running for President. She's also running in Arizona. How was Arizona's 2020 election? How's the counting going now? Done yet?

Then yours don't count either because it's not 2008 or 2012, it would be 2028, it would be the first time a third term was possible for a long time now, and Obama ain't the same. How accurate are any of the numbers or ratings period? How low were Trumps numbers in 2020 and how did he somehow win 2024 then?

Again, sorry, but:

In 4 years time, if things are going poorly, you would certainly have a point.

In 4 years time, if things have improved, why bother switching to Obama?