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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2022 NPD Thread (NPD Out Now)

Guys all I know is that God of War and Call of Duty outsold Pokemon on this chart. And that is an excellent achievement. If it is true that bundles aren't included then it definitely outsold Pokemon even with digital sales. And that's okay.



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PS5 is also gonna win December.
I am certain.



Crazy how Call of Duty is still that strong. Great debut for Sonic Frontiers in all platforms, looks like it's becoming popular among Sonic fans. Much, much better than Forces.

God of War did great too.



CosmicSex said:

Guys all I know is that God of War and Call of Duty outsold Pokemon on this chart. And that is an excellent achievement. If it is true that bundles aren't included then it definitely outsold Pokemon even with digital sales. And that's okay.

I think Pokemon Scarlet and Violet sold more copies launch aligned. It was released a week later, and the rankings are revenue based (Pokemon is $10 cheaper than the PS5 version of Ragnarok).

Still... Scarlet/Violet (globally) had the greatest launch of all time for an exclusive game. For Ragnarok to rival that in the US, by selling primarily to PS5's small playerbase, is extremely impressive. Spider-Man 2 and Zelda Tears of the Kingdom will both gun for best US exclusive launch ever next year (excluding free mass bundles). Starfield might perform very well too when accounting for PC sales (Bethesda doesn't report digital).

CosmicSex said:

PS5 is also gonna win December.
I am certain.

Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it. If it does win December though, I half-expect it to have an impressive streak and win every month until November 2023 at the earliest, and Switch 2 launch at the latest. Though there may be some shipping issues around the time the revision is launched (September~) that could lead to a loss before that. Good chance Sony would prioritize other regions too, but I have a good feeling about production.

Last edited by Kyuu - on 10 December 2022

CosmicSex said:

Guys all I know is that God of War and Call of Duty outsold Pokemon on this chart. And that is an excellent achievement. If it is true that bundles aren't included then it definitely outsold Pokemon even with digital sales. And that's okay.

One thing to also be mindful of is that the chart is revenue based.



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Blood_Tears said:

Wow, so much defensiveness from a few Nintendo fans all of the sudden. Bringing Zelda and Horizon into it after 5 years? Who gives a shit, take that crap to the weekly famitsu threads. We all know Nintendo doesn’t disclose digital numbers and that’s a Nintendo issue. If they had the insight to disclose digital then sure Pokemon would have placed higher. But they didn’t and in the NPD chart list God of War outsold Pokemon in its opening month with the data available. That’s it, those are the facts. It doesn’t diminish Nintendo in anyway because a Sony game is listed higher for one of the few times it happens. Jesus, puts the dicks away.

Why are you so upset? Chill out.



ShadowLink93 said:
Farsala said:

Looking at it more closely, I really don't think all consoles sold over 1m. God of War bundles revenue contributes to PS5s total. OLED had a lot more stock than the Lite this year. While the XBS is last in units so the ASP overall impact from the cheap XBS S isn't that impactful to the total.

I think only PS5 sold over 1m. Something like

PS5- 1.1m
Switch- 950k
XBS- 900k

Last year totaled 2.3m, a 45% increase would mean 3.35m. so maybe

PS5 - 1.25m

Switch - 1.1m

XBS - 1m

45% increase is based on revenue.

That is without taking into account that the PS5 was the best selling console due to the God of War bundle which increases the ASP of PS5. I don't think PS5 came close to 1.25m.

Switch as well, I am sure also had a higher ASP this year due to much improved OLED stock compared to last year.

The only console with a lower ASP was XBS, but it was also the lowest selling console of the month.



Just some quick math.

My estimates for 2021

500k PS5 @ $480= 240m
1.13m Switch @ $290= 327m
650k XBS @ $470= 305m

Total= .87b (spot on)

Using my estimates that I stated earlier in the thread for 2022

1.1m PS5 @ $520= 572m
950k Switch @ $320= 304m
900k XBS @ $330= 297m

Total= 1.17b ( Only 80m off)

With that math down, you can see that my scenario is entirely possible, with some minor adjustments. I think XBS is actually lower sales to revenue ratio, now that I look at it more.

Last edited by Farsala - on 10 December 2022

PS5's victory is confirmed✌️✌️
I came here after a long time to say that.



My prediction in 2023.

SW: 27m

PS5: 24m

XBS: 12m

Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

PS5's victory is confirmed✌️✌️
I came here after a long time to say that.

Now, get in VGC jail and stay there !



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