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Which is better?

Return of the King 60 75.95%
 
Return of the Jedi 19 24.05%
 
Total:79

Return of the King, easily.



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Verter said:

I haven't had the chance to watch the last one yet, unfortunately

You are actually fortunate. Just don't know it yet :p 

Seriously though, people on internet screams about how bad some SW movies are (mainly Phantom Menace, The Last Jedi and Solo A Star Wars Story), but the Rise of Skywalker is the only Star Wars movie that is a disaster from a cinematic standpoint



We should create which movie is worse

The Hobbit 3, I forgot the name
Or The Rise of Skywalker

It would be a really interesting thread



IcaroRibeiro said:

We should create which movie is worse

The Hobbit 3, I forgot the name
Or The Rise of Skywalker

It would be a really interesting thread

I have to say, even as someone who enjoyed the first two Hobbit films, the third one gets nowhere near as much hate as it deserves, that movie was trash.

Rise of Skywalker is probably even worse, though. Star Wars has its fair share of underwhelming films and even among those it sticks out.



mZuzek said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

We should create which movie is worse

The Hobbit 3, I forgot the name
Or The Rise of Skywalker

It would be a really interesting thread

I have to say, even as someone who enjoyed the first two Hobbit films, the third one gets nowhere near as much hate as it deserves, that movie was trash.

Rise of Skywalker is probably even worse, though. Star Wars has its fair share of underwhelming films and even among those it sticks out.

I'm sad for Peter Jackson because he was pretty much forced to film Hobbit 3, he had no plot to work there, it's basically a bunch of mindless action and wars that don't have any sort of urgency and tone. It's close to a Transformers movie if anything 

Good thing is I haven't lose my money watching it on cinema, after Smaug I knew there isn't anything else on this trilogy for me 



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IcaroRibeiro said:
mZuzek said:

I have to say, even as someone who enjoyed the first two Hobbit films, the third one gets nowhere near as much hate as it deserves, that movie was trash.

Rise of Skywalker is probably even worse, though. Star Wars has its fair share of underwhelming films and even among those it sticks out.

I'm sad for Peter Jackson because he was pretty much forced to film Hobbit 3, he had no plot to work there, it's basically a bunch of mindless action and wars that don't have any sort of urgency and tone. It's close to a Transformers movie if anything 

Good thing is I haven't lose my money watching it on cinema, after Smaug I knew there isn't anything else on this trilogy for me 

I didn't watch it in cinemas either.

A good choice.



IcaroRibeiro said:

We should create which movie is worse

The Hobbit 3, I forgot the name
Or The Rise of Skywalker

It would be a really interesting thread

I never saw Rise of Skywalker and I don't plan to; after how utterly dogshit The Last Jedi was, I bailed on the franchise.

The third Hobbit film is a mediocre piece of cinema for sure, but if Rise of Skywalker is even half as awful as its said to be, I'd still take the former any day.



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It is tough but I would vote for Return of the King.

(warning spoilers below)

I love the OG Star Wars trilogy and I think that it is a timeless pop culture masterpiece that defines not only the Boomer generation but Gen X and most of the Miliennial generation. The LOTR was a movie-making masterpiece that in my view told a story that was deeper, technically better written and likely even more timeless than the OG Star Wars trilogy. I think that Star Wars had a more transformative effect on culture and society at large compared to LOTR especially in terms of pop culture references and lasting love of the franchise (which didn't start waning until the prequels came out and were met with disappointment). That said, LOTR did have a transformative effect as well especially in terms of the shift away from sci-fi towards the fantasy genre that occurred in mainstream pop-culture in the mid 2000's.

If this was a debate of the OG Star Wars trilogy vs LOTR trilogy, I would vote for Star Wars by a small but definite margin. IV and V were just unbelievable movies, especially if you can get away from the Special Edition and watch the original theatrical releases (which most people have never seen). That being said, as has been said repeatedly on this thread, RotJ was the weakest of the OG Star Wars movies. It was clear that the creative well that Lucas was drawing ideas were starting to run dry in this movie which only got worse in the subsequent prequels. RotJ is still a very strong movie that gave a really nice conclusion to the trilogy, but it was obvious that the tank was sputtering a bit at times during the movie. RotK, on the other hand, carried seemlessly on from Two Towers with very little loss of momentum right up to the end of the movie. You can maybe argue that the army of the dead wiping out Sauron's massive invasion force in RotK was a bit of an anticlimatic conclusion to the biggest battle in the trilogy and, in my view, wasn't quite as strong as the conclusion of the battle in Two Towers, but this is minor. The battle was still very epic, overall. The whole Ewok arc in RotJ felt underwhelming and even the death-star battle felt a lot less intense than in episode IV. What really saved the climax in RotJ was the arc between Luke, Vader and Palpatine, which was incredible. That said, RotK didn't have any parts that "needed saving": the whole movie ranged between strong and masterful. RotJ had some bigger dips which hurt it overall.



curl-6 said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

We should create which movie is worse

The Hobbit 3, I forgot the name
Or The Rise of Skywalker

I never saw Rise of Skywalker and I don't plan to; after how utterly dogshit The Last Jedi was, I bailed on the franchise.

The third Hobbit film is a mediocre piece of cinema for sure, but if Rise of Skywalker is even half as awful as its said to be, I'd still take the former any day.

Even as someone who disliked The Last Jedi heavily, Rise of Skywalker still managed to go far and beyond my very low expectations. TLJ was bad but at least it was trying to do something. Rise of Skywalker has to be up there as one of the most soulless pieces of cinema ever made. Absolutely devoid of substance.



mZuzek said:
curl-6 said:

I never saw Rise of Skywalker and I don't plan to; after how utterly dogshit The Last Jedi was, I bailed on the franchise.

The third Hobbit film is a mediocre piece of cinema for sure, but if Rise of Skywalker is even half as awful as its said to be, I'd still take the former any day.

Even as someone who disliked The Last Jedi heavily, Rise of Skywalker still managed to go far and beyond my very low expectations. TLJ was bad but at least it was trying to do something. Rise of Skywalker has to be up there as one of the most soulless pieces of cinema ever made. Absolutely devoid of substance.

Yikes, considering how atrocious Last Jedi was, this only cements my desire to stay well away from Rise of Skywalker.

The entire 2010s trilogy was a mistake.



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