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Which is better?

Dark City 14 35.90%
 
The Matrix 25 64.10%
 
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Does anyone know if Dark City is on any of the popular streaming services, and if so which one?



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

Does anyone know if Dark City is on any of the popular streaming services, and if so which one?

In my contry it dosn't seem to be anywhere other than video rental sites.

But have you seen animatrix? Most will all agree that matrix 2+3 was not in the same league as the original.. but matrix animated (9 small movies) was storywise imo.

2 of the best...

Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU8RunvBRZ8

part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00TD4bXMoYw

EDDIT.. sorry dont watch.. jusy realized some has been cut out.. my bad.. but point is.. many havent seen anymatrix.. and thats a shame.. good day :)

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m0ney said:

Matrix is leagues above Dark City, some people just like protest voting, 'alternative' thinking, hating on what's popular etc.

I liked Dark City but it clearly could have used bigger budget.

Spoiler!
One scene that I remember clearly was when the city was shown from a distance in space and water was washing aside the city, it looked cool but made no sense.

One, massive spoilers, a lot of people haven't seen the movie yet.
Two, does the Matrix make more sense to you?

Spoiler!
(They clearly mastered gravity manipulation so it makes perfect sense with that in mind)


Three, if people don't agree with you it must be a protest vote? There's a lot more to movies than flash.

The Matrix was an amazing experience in the cinema, stunning, jaw dropping. It introduced the pause/slow mo pan around shot to cinema and commercials. The movie also has very drawn out sections and takes forever to get going on repeat viewings. Plus the whole you are the one stuff is always iffy.

Action scenes are top notch, still great to watch. But on repeat viewings, I'll sit down and can watch Dark city in its entirety while seeing new details. The Matrix I simply watch the good bits to enjoy the amazing sound effects. music and still cool visuals.

Anyway the one thing The Matrix is leagues ahead of Dark City is in budget!



SvennoJ said:

if people don't agree with you it must be a protest vote?

Not me but general public. Matrix is regarded as one of the best sci-fi movies of all time, it has nothing to do with my opinion.



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m0ney said:
SvennoJ said:

if people don't agree with you it must be a protest vote?

Not me but general public. Matrix is regarded as one of the best sci-fi movies of all time, it has nothing to do with my opinion.

They are two different genres. Matrix is more in the generally more liked action genre. That why it has more broad appeal than Dark City in the more niche Film Noir/Mystery genre.

We can compare more objective criteria and both have flaws and both have great things. Matrix though has a much bigger budget. This in itself is no guarantee for a good movie, but it help Matrix to have the much better production value and effects. But besides that both movies have their Pros and Cons. Hard really to put one above the other besides personal preferences based on their genres.



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m0ney said:
SvennoJ said:

if people don't agree with you it must be a protest vote?

Not me but general public. Matrix is regarded as one of the best sci-fi movies of all time, it has nothing to do with my opinion.

So why is it a protest vote, that's what I responded to.

T2 blew me away just as much when I saw it in the cinema, perhaps more. I still think T2 is a better movie, one I can enjoy for the entire director's cut without feeling the urge to skip ahead.

Oddly Inception takes the nr.1 spot on IMDB, while that's very enjoyable as well, it's another one that I get less out of on repeat viewings. Movies like Dark City, Gattaca, Moon all 'grow' on repeat viewings while classics like Alien, Blade Runner, Twelve Monkeys, Star Wars (the originals), Wrath of Khan never seem to lose their impact. The Matrix feels less every time I watch it, hence the preference for Dark City.

In 1999, no doubt, would have voted The Matrix. Dark City took over about 10 years ago. Perhaps having seen the sequels to The Matrix lessened the movie as well. Can't unsee what it turned it. (Still not terrible movies, just far below the first one)

Dark city luckily never got a sequel, which keeps it its own contained story

Anyway my personal top sci-fi atm is
Blade runner, 12 Monkeys, Children of Men, T2, Akira, Undiscovered Country, Alien, Wrath of Khan, Dark city, Moon, The Matrix, Interstellar, Gattaca, Brazil, 2001, Inception, AI, Strange Days
Mostly ordered by how much I would want to watch them again. Inception has fallen the most in my list. It was pretty tedious when watching again tbh. Star Wars I've seen too much to feel like watching again atm :) The matrix drops a few places every time I watch it :/



SvennoJ said:

Anyway my personal top sci-fi atm is
Blade runner, 12 Monkeys, Children of Men, T2, Akira, Undiscovered Country, Alien, Wrath of Khan, Dark city, Moon, The Matrix, Interstellar, Gattaca, Brazil, 2001, Inception, AI, Strange Days
Mostly ordered by how much I would want to watch them again. Inception has fallen the most in my list. It was pretty tedious when watching again tbh. Star Wars I've seen too much to feel like watching again atm :) The matrix drops a few places every time I watch it :/

Gattaca and Brazil are among my favorites too.

I haven't seen Matrix in many years, it doesn't have anymore rewatching value for me personally.

If we have come to sci-fi discussion, I would recommend to everyone a really underrated one - Pandorum (2009), it is one of the coolest and shocking ones I have ever seen but like most lower budget movies it went under the radar.



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m0ney said:
SvennoJ said:

Anyway my personal top sci-fi atm is
Blade runner, 12 Monkeys, Children of Men, T2, Akira, Undiscovered Country, Alien, Wrath of Khan, Dark city, Moon, The Matrix, Interstellar, Gattaca, Brazil, 2001, Inception, AI, Strange Days
Mostly ordered by how much I would want to watch them again. Inception has fallen the most in my list. It was pretty tedious when watching again tbh. Star Wars I've seen too much to feel like watching again atm :) The matrix drops a few places every time I watch it :/

Gattaca and Brazil are among my favorites too.

I haven't seen Matrix in many years, it doesn't have anymore rewatching value for me personally.

If we have come to sci-fi discussion, I would recommend to everyone a really underrated one - Pandorum (2009), it is one of the coolest and shocking ones I have ever seen but like most lower budget movies it went under the radar.

Pandorum was a nice surprise, when I watched it years after release. Surprising also as I am not used to such good german movies.

And if you like Sci-Fi you have not too much big budget movies to choose from, as most producers see at as niche and don't allocate a lot of money.

Also, the list of SvennoJ is very comprehensive for great SF-movies to watch, but misses the original Ghost in the Shell.



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Both are excellent films in my book, but I personally find the atmosphere and mystery of Dark City more compelling. Matrix definitely benefits from a bigger budget, but the world of Dark City just drew me in more. It's such a criminally overlooked film in my opinion and it's a real shame so few have seen it.



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Mnementh said:
m0ney said:

Gattaca and Brazil are among my favorites too.

I haven't seen Matrix in many years, it doesn't have anymore rewatching value for me personally.

If we have come to sci-fi discussion, I would recommend to everyone a really underrated one - Pandorum (2009), it is one of the coolest and shocking ones I have ever seen but like most lower budget movies it went under the radar.

Pandorum was a nice surprise, when I watched it years after release. Surprising also as I am not used to such good german movies.

And if you like Sci-Fi you have not too much big budget movies to choose from, as most producers see at as niche and don't allocate a lot of money.

Also, the list of SvennoJ is very comprehensive for great SF-movies to watch, but misses the original Ghost in the Shell.

Good catch, that's sci-fi as well, forget about while deciding whether Akira qualifies as sci-fi. Plus it's not that long ago I watched the live action version (not as good) and the spruced up version (I prefer the original)

Pandorum was indeed a lovely surprise, went in expecting an avg B movie, turned out very good. There was another nice surprise I watched on Netflix, crap it rotated out of my watch again list and I can't remember the name right now. One of the reasons I dislike streaming!