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shikamaru317 said:

I don't usually participate in the politics forum and have it blocked from appearing on my hot topics, but I recently took the poltical spectrum quiz for the first time and figured it might be fun to compare my results to others here on VGC. Link to the quiz: 

https://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html

My results:

Please do try to refrain from making this thread too ugly. No attacking other users over their political views or anything like that. 

Whoa, I wouldn't have pegged you for a neo interventionist Shika XD 

Well, if anything... this goes to show it's perfectly possible for a far lefty like me to be good friends with someone who's standard Republican right wing. Again, no offense intended either. 

I also feel I need to add: I highlighted that I believe in strong gun ownership, showing decorum to elders (not deferring to them, but if you want to disagree, don't show them your rowdy side. Show them you're better and more of a moral example than they are), am virulently anti-censorship (no, banning DJT from FB and Twitter will just take his shoutbox to Parler and then people won't know where these rioters assemble, and also believe abortion shouldn't be available on request but should be available widely and de-stigmatized (as in, treat it like any other medical condition and refuse to let politics into it) and also believe in patriotism - I just don't believe boots on the ground everywhere and "my country right or wrong" is a healthy form of displaying love for your country compared to foreign aid, assembling a multinational team of astronauts for Mars (led by your country) and trying to show dictators and strongmen you're so much nobler than them you aren't going to give them the cold shoulder, but you don't expect to agree with them. 

How did you block the politics thread Shika? 

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shikamaru317 said:
AsGryffynn said:

Whoa, I wouldn't have pegged you for a neo interventionist Shika XD 

Well, if anything... this goes to show it's perfectly possible for a far lefty like me to be good friends with someone who's standard Republican right wing. Again, no offense intended either. 

I also feel I need to add: I highlighted that I believe in strong gun ownership, showing decorum to elders (not deferring to them, but if you want to disagree, don't show them your rowdy side. Show them you're better and more of a moral example than they are), am virulently anti-censorship (no, banning DJT from FB and Twitter will just take his shoutbox to Parler and then people won't know where these rioters assemble, and also believe abortion shouldn't be available on request but should be available widely and de-stigmatized (as in, treat it like any other medical condition and refuse to let politics into it) and also believe in patriotism - I just don't believe boots on the ground everywhere and "my country right or wrong" is a healthy form of displaying love for your country compared to foreign aid, assembling a multinational team of astronauts for Mars (led by your country) and trying to show dictators and strongmen you're so much nobler than them you aren't going to give them the cold shoulder, but you don't expect to agree with them. 

How did you block the politics thread Shika? 

Yeah, contrary to what many seem to believe these days about the right and the left have drifted so far apart that it is impossible to have unity between them, I think it is possible, it's just a matter of finding common ground, such our shared loved of video games. 

I definitely agree with you on alot of that. I support gun ownership and think it would be true crime if Biden, the democrat controlled house, and the now 50-50 senate manage to pass considerably stricter gun laws, especially if they manage to pass an outright gun ban (I live in a family of hunters, and though I don't personally hunt, I do enjoy going shooting at a target range, so that would not go over well at all with me and my family). I also believe in respecting your elders and tend to think that my fellow millennials and especially gen z have become far too disrespectful of the older generations, particularly the boomers, but also remaining members of the silent generation and gen Xers (I really hope that gen Alpha and later on gen Beta are far more respectful of elders, because I would hate to get treated like I see the boomers being treated when I get older). I'm also strongly anti-censorship be it movies, games, or what we post online, and definitely think that social media censorship has gone too far recently, they've been censoring anti-CCP sentiment, censoring Trump and conservatives in general, if something as basic as free speech isn't being protected just because we are online, something is badly wrong with the state of the world. I am pretty strongly anti-abortion personally, having held my severely premature sister in my hands and seeing how well formed she was, I strongly believe that life begins at conception (backed up by evidence of some babies having memory of being in the womb), so I cannot in good conscious support abortion, except in cases where the mother's and babies' life might be at risk or in cases of rape. I also believe in patriotism, keeping a strong military even if it's not used, but also in using said military if say a dictator needs to be toppled and diplomatic options like sanctions have failed. As for multi-national cooperation, I support it to an extent, though I feel like things like the EU go dangerously close to a one world government, which I am strongly against, but things like a multinational mission to Mars I have no issues with.

To be honest with you, I'm not sure how to disable politics from appearing on hot topics and the home page these days. There used to be checkboxes beside each individual forum on the forum index that you could check or uncheck to disable said forum from appearing on hot topics, but I think those checkboxes were removed when the site got redesigned because I can't find them anywhere. Thankfully my setting to have it disabled carried over. Definitely a feature that Talon needs to bring back, I know many people besides myself requested those checkboxes specifically to disable politics threads from appearing on hot topics. 

Well, guess I'll just have to live with that in my feed. 



So, this is what I'm getting from the political spectrum quiz. 

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AsGryffynn said:

Whoa, I wouldn't have pegged you for a neo interventionist Shika XD 

Well, if anything... this goes to show it's perfectly possible for a far lefty like me to be good friends with someone who's standard Republican right wing. Again, no offense intended either. 

I also feel I need to add: I highlighted that I believe in strong gun ownership, showing decorum to elders (not deferring to them, but if you want to disagree, don't show them your rowdy side. Show them you're better and more of a moral example than they are), am virulently anti-censorship (no, banning DJT from FB and Twitter will just take his shoutbox to Parler and then people won't know where these rioters assemble, and also believe abortion shouldn't be available on request but should be available widely and de-stigmatized (as in, treat it like any other medical condition and refuse to let politics into it) and also believe in patriotism - I just don't believe boots on the ground everywhere and "my country right or wrong" is a healthy form of displaying love for your country compared to foreign aid, assembling a multinational team of astronauts for Mars (led by your country) and trying to show dictators and strongmen you're so much nobler than them you aren't going to give them the cold shoulder, but you don't expect to agree with them. 

How did you block the politics thread Shika? 

Thanks for this. Yeah, I think despite all differences in the politics and even if we are on contrarian positions sometimes, it is important to talk to each other instead of shouting down differing opinions.

For the Filter: Open the Forum-menu on the top and choose 'My topics'. There you have a 'Show Filters' button on the top left, which opens a bunch of checkboxes. Don't forget to save after changing the settings.



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Machina said:

Culture war I don't think it's got my position quite right really. It depends on the specific issue in question, but I find myself more aligned with cultural conservatives in general despite being - or perhaps because I am - very socially liberal. Free speech is vital, identity politics is cancer for society, and the left has become very illiberal. We in the UK seem to be intent on importing wholesale the worst parts of the American culture war, which is worrying and slightly depressing.

I feel very much the same way about this. I consider myself socially liberal/progressive, but the more and more the 'left' is getting dominated by extremely authoritarian and intollerant views. I completely support the classic "forget the old taboos, you can do what you want!" side of the left, but I have serious issues with the new "you can't say/do that anymore!" side. A while ago I read something about free speech being a 'conservative value', which I found very worrying.

I've also noticed that the most extreme ends of the political spectrum over here are very much inspired by their American examples and copy their rhetorics even when they barely make sense. Unsurprisingly, these people are also the ones that are most active on sites like Twitter where the echochamber-effect is so strong that nuance is barely allowed.



Flilix said:
Machina said:

Culture war I don't think it's got my position quite right really. It depends on the specific issue in question, but I find myself more aligned with cultural conservatives in general despite being - or perhaps because I am - very socially liberal. Free speech is vital, identity politics is cancer for society, and the left has become very illiberal. We in the UK seem to be intent on importing wholesale the worst parts of the American culture war, which is worrying and slightly depressing.

I feel very much the same way about this. I consider myself socially liberal/progressive, but the more and more the 'left' is getting dominated by extremely authoritarian and intollerant views. I completely support the classic "forget the old taboos, you can do what you want!" side of the left, but I have serious issues with the new "you can't say/do that anymore!" side. A while ago I read something about free speech being a 'conservative value', which I found very worrying.

I've also noticed that the most extreme ends of the political spectrum over here are very much inspired by their American examples and copy their rhetorics even when they barely make sense. Unsurprisingly, these people are also the ones that are most active on sites like Twitter where the echochamber-effect is so strong that nuance is barely allowed.

Free speech is most definitely a left wing value. Ask Noam Chomsky or Prof Richard Wolff. I'm a true blue lefty and I'm very much pro free speech.



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Eagle367 said:
Flilix said:

I feel very much the same way about this. I consider myself socially liberal/progressive, but the more and more the 'left' is getting dominated by extremely authoritarian and intollerant views. I completely support the classic "forget the old taboos, you can do what you want!" side of the left, but I have serious issues with the new "you can't say/do that anymore!" side. A while ago I read something about free speech being a 'conservative value', which I found very worrying.

I've also noticed that the most extreme ends of the political spectrum over here are very much inspired by their American examples and copy their rhetorics even when they barely make sense. Unsurprisingly, these people are also the ones that are most active on sites like Twitter where the echochamber-effect is so strong that nuance is barely allowed.

Free speech is most definitely a left wing value. Ask Noam Chomsky or Prof Richard Wolff. I'm a true blue lefty and I'm very much pro free speech.

Oh I know that it is (traditionally), but I feel like that is starting to shift. I don't believe that the intollerance towards free speech on 'the left' is already too problematic, but I do feel like it's gradually getting worse and it could get pretty bad in the future.



Flilix said:
Eagle367 said:

Free speech is most definitely a left wing value. Ask Noam Chomsky or Prof Richard Wolff. I'm a true blue lefty and I'm very much pro free speech.

Oh I know that it is (traditionally), but I feel like that is starting to shift. I don't believe that the intollerance towards free speech on 'the left' is already too problematic, but I do feel like it's gradually getting worse and it could get pretty bad in the future.

Overall the public impression recently has been that cancel culture is a left wing thing. But it is only some loud twitter crowd, classic left people are very much pro free speech. And not to forget, right wingers are fast to use cancel culture for their causes (and did this since centuries), but it is usually named differently, but still the same stuff.



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Flilix said:
Eagle367 said:

Free speech is most definitely a left wing value. Ask Noam Chomsky or Prof Richard Wolff. I'm a true blue lefty and I'm very much pro free speech.

Oh I know that it is (traditionally), but I feel like that is starting to shift. I don't believe that the intollerance towards free speech on 'the left' is already too problematic, but I do feel like it's gradually getting worse and it could get pretty bad in the future.

I have a few comments on that. First there are 2 scales for a reason. For one, thee libertarian to authoritarian scale is for the free speech stuff, not the left/right scale. And that's why the big L libertarian isn't the small l right wing libertarian. So noam Chomsky, Prof Richard Wolff, me and I assume you are libertarian left wingers while the crowd you don't like are more authoritarian left wingers.

Regarding the stuff about cancel culture, it's still not a left wing thing because the right wing has been doing it and continues to do it for ages while the left wingers who even want to do it don't have the power. Like right wingers are flouring on the net and social media, where they claim they are "cancelled" but a;; mainstream media basically banned left wingers from talking against the Iraq war, the patriot act, the Afghanistan war, etc before the internet rose to power. A few employees were fired for talking against these things and Jesse Ventura had a 3 year deal with MSNBC to do a show but when they learned that he was gonna talk against the war, they didn't air any episode and since it was an exclusivity deal, Jesse basically couldn't do anything else either. He was being paid but his voice was silenced. 

Even now, other than a few congress people they have to bring on, left wingers rarely get a free and equitable representation in MSM of different countries. Jeremy Corbyn in UK, Jagmeet Singh and NDP in Canada, many voices in the US, India, Pakistan, France, Australia, etc. Right wingers get way more airtime. Most socialists are for free speech even today. Liberals are a different story and those people are culturally left while economically centre to right wing. There is still a much larger segment of people who are libertarian left wingers than there are authoritarian left wingers meanwhile rulers and people in power like the rich and wealthy are almost exclusively in the authoritarian right wing quadrant.



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