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Flilix said:
Eagle367 said:

Free speech is most definitely a left wing value. Ask Noam Chomsky or Prof Richard Wolff. I'm a true blue lefty and I'm very much pro free speech.

Oh I know that it is (traditionally), but I feel like that is starting to shift. I don't believe that the intollerance towards free speech on 'the left' is already too problematic, but I do feel like it's gradually getting worse and it could get pretty bad in the future.

I have a few comments on that. First there are 2 scales for a reason. For one, thee libertarian to authoritarian scale is for the free speech stuff, not the left/right scale. And that's why the big L libertarian isn't the small l right wing libertarian. So noam Chomsky, Prof Richard Wolff, me and I assume you are libertarian left wingers while the crowd you don't like are more authoritarian left wingers.

Regarding the stuff about cancel culture, it's still not a left wing thing because the right wing has been doing it and continues to do it for ages while the left wingers who even want to do it don't have the power. Like right wingers are flouring on the net and social media, where they claim they are "cancelled" but a;; mainstream media basically banned left wingers from talking against the Iraq war, the patriot act, the Afghanistan war, etc before the internet rose to power. A few employees were fired for talking against these things and Jesse Ventura had a 3 year deal with MSNBC to do a show but when they learned that he was gonna talk against the war, they didn't air any episode and since it was an exclusivity deal, Jesse basically couldn't do anything else either. He was being paid but his voice was silenced. 

Even now, other than a few congress people they have to bring on, left wingers rarely get a free and equitable representation in MSM of different countries. Jeremy Corbyn in UK, Jagmeet Singh and NDP in Canada, many voices in the US, India, Pakistan, France, Australia, etc. Right wingers get way more airtime. Most socialists are for free speech even today. Liberals are a different story and those people are culturally left while economically centre to right wing. There is still a much larger segment of people who are libertarian left wingers than there are authoritarian left wingers meanwhile rulers and people in power like the rich and wealthy are almost exclusively in the authoritarian right wing quadrant.



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