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Otter on 04 January 2021
PDiddy said:

6 Million dream is over guys:

Lol is PS4 about to over take the PS5? I'd argue that there was no point sony launching in Japan this year but I guess to intentionally skip would do more damage to the brand than being understocked.



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curl-6 on 04 January 2021
PDiddy said:

Switch to PS5 ratio of 21:1.



Bofferbrauer2 on 05 January 2021
RolStoppable said:
Otter said:

Lol is PS4 about to over take the PS5? I'd argue that there was no point sony launching in Japan this year but I guess to intentionally skip would do more damage to the brand than being understocked.

PS3 had weeks where it sold better than the PS4:
https://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41777/Japan/

The way Sony has gone about the PS5 launch, there was no point in doing it last year. What they have done is worse than a delayed launch, because with a delayed launch they would have had at least a good reason for their low LTD in spring 2021. But launching before the holiday season and then not being able to properly take advantage of the holiday season paints an incredibly grim picture. When launch and holiday season can't even combine for 400k LTD, plus having an outlook of a slump that will last until the next holiday season, that's a terrible spot to be in.

The PS4 was at least only seven months away from the holiday season when it hit the low that I posted above. But the PS5 will be in the gutter for eleven months.

If the PS5 doesn't recover quickly (like the PS4 did during and after it's first holiday season), then I think we can compare the console with the Wii U in Japan. For those who don't know, the Wii U early on sold better than the PS4 in Japan, but Sony managed to turn the tables around after a year. 



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AJNShelton on 05 January 2021
PDiddy said:

6 Million dream is over guys:

Ugh, 5.956 million, shame.

Damn you Scots Japanese people, they ruined Scotland Nintendo.



Chorlin on 05 January 2021

I can´t believe those PS5 sales..



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curl-6 on 05 January 2021
Bofferbrauer2 said:
RolStoppable said:

PS3 had weeks where it sold better than the PS4:
https://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41777/Japan/

The way Sony has gone about the PS5 launch, there was no point in doing it last year. What they have done is worse than a delayed launch, because with a delayed launch they would have had at least a good reason for their low LTD in spring 2021. But launching before the holiday season and then not being able to properly take advantage of the holiday season paints an incredibly grim picture. When launch and holiday season can't even combine for 400k LTD, plus having an outlook of a slump that will last until the next holiday season, that's a terrible spot to be in.

The PS4 was at least only seven months away from the holiday season when it hit the low that I posted above. But the PS5 will be in the gutter for eleven months.

If the PS5 doesn't recover quickly (like the PS4 did during and after it's first holiday season), then I think we can compare the console with the Wii U in Japan. For those who don't know, the Wii U early on sold better than the PS4 in Japan, but Sony managed to turn the tables around after a year. 

I'm thinking Vita might be a closer point of comparison; it sold more than Wii U, but less than PS4, as PS5 seems likely to do.



The_Liquid_Laser on 05 January 2021
curl-6 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

If the PS5 doesn't recover quickly (like the PS4 did during and after it's first holiday season), then I think we can compare the console with the Wii U in Japan. For those who don't know, the Wii U early on sold better than the PS4 in Japan, but Sony managed to turn the tables around after a year. 

I'm thinking Vita might be a closer point of comparison; it sold more than Wii U, but less than PS4, as PS5 seems likely to do.

I think the Vita is a really good comparison.  I almost bought a Vita recently.  I looked into the best games on the Vita and found that almost all of them are also on other systems.  The main selling point for the Vita was portability and that was it.  The Vita had quite a few games but very few of them were exclusives.  That is what I expect for PS5.  It will get a lot of Japanese games, but I don't think it will get a lot of Japanese exclusives.



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Louie on 06 January 2021

The challenge Sony will face in Japan ist that in a few years its only viable console will be the PS5. We often compare PS3 and PS4 to potential PS5 sales, but Sony had a very successful handheld during the PS3 era and a moderately successful handheld during the PS4 era. In the past, there were always multiple Sony systems for Japanese developers to do cross platform releases on. Devs could release a game on PS3 + PSP, or PS4 + Vita, or even on PS3 + PS4 + Vita for example. But in less than two years, Sony's whole Japanese install base will consist solely of PS5 and thus be lower than 5m probably.

I expect many Japanese third party developers to cling to the PS5 as long as possible, but in the end it'll be harder than ever for them to release Playstation exclusive games.



TheBraveGallade on 06 January 2021
Louie said:

The challenge Sony will face in Japan ist that in a few years its only viable console will be the PS5. We often compare PS3 and PS4 to potential PS5 sales, but Sony had a very successful handheld during the PS3 era and a moderately successful handheld during the PS4 era. In the past, there were always multiple Sony systems for Japanese developers to do cross platform releases on. Devs could release a game on PS3 + PSP, or PS4 + Vita, or even on PS3 + PS4 + Vita for example. But in less than two years, Sony's whole Japanese install base will consist solely of PS5 and thus be lower than 5m probably.

I expect many Japanese third party developers to cling to the PS5 as long as possible, but in the end it'll be harder than ever for them to release Playstation exclusive games.

yeah, when companies that have been staunchly playstation start to migrate like compile heart to multiplat you know things are going badly...



HoangNhatAnh on 06 January 2021
SKMBlake said:
PDiddy said:

6 Million dream is over guys:

Ugh, 5.956 million, shame.

Damn you Scots Japanese people, they ruined Scotland Nintendo.

Fearnot, there are still the last 4 days of 2020.