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I don't really consider this to be any worse than selling an HD remake of a 2010 game from two generations ago at full price in stores in 2020. Or indeed selling launch window titles at full price as a general rule nearly four years after the console launched. With that in mind, a 70, or even 80$ release which will have shrunk to half within a year or so is not so bad.



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MSRP and market value are two different things. I tend to buy only Nintendo games at full price, because they hold their value. Sony and MS games, I never buy day 1. Wait 3-5 months and their games are 50% off. Point being developers can put whatever MSRP they want on their next-gen games, their value will be $30-$40 in a few months after release, which is when I will purchase.



I just wait till sales, I love new games as much as anyone. But I am quite happy playing old games until that happens, currently replaying Kotor 1/2. Won't have a PS5 till the summer at the earliest, probably not until next Xmas to be honest.



TomaTito said:

Decided to bump the topic with this latest video from Jim Sterling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7kaK2-725w

He mentions marketing in the video, and that is true, the budget spent on marketing overshadows any increase in development expenses game titles have experienced during these years.

He makes so many good points. When I get a PS5 Im not buying any games for more than I paid for a PS4 game. And as soon as the price goes down, the hype has died down and I can probably wait for another price drop. So gaming will become cheaper for me. Games have just become too expensive now, so I have to adapt in order to afford it. They can try and justify it all they want, its simply greed and greed alone.



One of the many reasons I never buy games at launch, the asking price is just way too high for me to justify it at this point. Also the reason why I buy at most a single Nintendo game a year, because they almost never go down in price even years after release. Besides, the whole price point thing is a lie in the first place anyway. Thinking that you actually get a full version of a game like Call of Duty if you buy the game at launch is just naivety at this point. There are countless games with additional content, microtransactions, special editions with exclusive content, store and console specific content, and so much more that pushes the actual price of a "full" game much higher than the initial asking price.



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It's not reasonable when it's just the entry fee not the final price. Besides games have overinflated budgets anyway. If a game like BOTW only needed 2 million to be considered a success then more devs should learn from that but greed has taken over. Games could still be $50. The higher price because costs is a lie they feed people. Easy lie to buy but still a lie. Bobby can't have his yearly $30 million bonus check to himself. He would have to settle for $20 million! The horror!



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

But a game with decent length and content like Nioh or Monster Hunter and Souls and by the time you're done with it, the next game you'll buy will be cheaper.

I managed to get Godfall at launch from an eBay retailer at £54 and sold it on eBay for £52.

Sometimes you simply need to shop around and find the best deals when buying and trading / reselling. I have far too many expensive habits to pay for them all at full price.



DonFerrari said:

Marketing is still a cost incurred on the game to make it sell.

True, though it is one of the reasons why  budgets have exploded.

A good game just sells itself with no heavy campaign behind it.

Chrkeller said:

MSRP and market value are two different things. I tend to buy only Nintendo games at full price, because they hold their value. Sony and MS games, I never buy day 1. Wait 3-5 months and their games are 50% off. Point being developers can put whatever MSRP they want on their next-gen games, their value will be $30-$40 in a few months after release, which is when I will purchase.

I remember that was one of the reasons why Nintendo did not give MSRP values for their products in Europe, in the end it was the retailers that set the prices and afterwards the market reacts to that. That's one of the reasons why the prices dropped so much in the UK, the price wars between shops.

KLXVER said:

He makes so many good points. When I get a PS5 Im not buying any games for more than I paid for a PS4 game. And as soon as the price goes down, the hype has died down and I can probably wait for another price drop. So gaming will become cheaper for me. Games have just become too expensive now, so I have to adapt in order to afford it. They can try and justify it all they want, its simply greed and greed alone.

Basically it is sound advice to wait for a discount, even Nintendo titles go on sale from time to time over here.

For example, bought Age of Calamity for 43eur just a week ago.



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TomaTito said:
DonFerrari said:

Marketing is still a cost incurred on the game to make it sell.

True, though it is one of the reasons why  budgets have exploded.

A good game just sells itself with no heavy campaign behind it.

Chrkeller said:

MSRP and market value are two different things. I tend to buy only Nintendo games at full price, because they hold their value. Sony and MS games, I never buy day 1. Wait 3-5 months and their games are 50% off. Point being developers can put whatever MSRP they want on their next-gen games, their value will be $30-$40 in a few months after release, which is when I will purchase.

I remember that was one of the reasons why Nintendo did not give MSRP values for their products in Europe, in the end it was the retailers that set the prices and afterwards the market reacts to that. That's one of the reasons why the prices dropped so much in the UK, the price wars between shops.

KLXVER said:

He makes so many good points. When I get a PS5 Im not buying any games for more than I paid for a PS4 game. And as soon as the price goes down, the hype has died down and I can probably wait for another price drop. So gaming will become cheaper for me. Games have just become too expensive now, so I have to adapt in order to afford it. They can try and justify it all they want, its simply greed and greed alone.

Basically it is sound advice to wait for a discount, even Nintendo titles go on sale from time to time over here.

For example, bought Age of Calamity for 43eur just a week ago.

Sorry man but will beg to disagree because although I agree that good products sell themselves there is still competition (sure a lot less when it comes to Nintendo 1st parties for a lot of reasons that we don't need to discuss). It is like McDonalds and Coke, both are very dominating in their markets for several decades or MS Windows and Office, and if we were to check it is quite possible that they are also among the companies that most put money on marketing.

That is the reality of mass market consumption products, they need to keep you interested and remembering them all the time to avoid losing marketshare.



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DonFerrari said:

Sorry man but will beg to disagree because although I agree that good products sell themselves there is still competition (sure a lot less when it comes to Nintendo 1st parties for a lot of reasons that we don't need to discuss). It is like McDonalds and Coke, both are very dominating in their markets for several decades or MS Windows and Office, and if we were to check it is quite possible that they are also among the companies that most put money on marketing.

That is the reality of mass market consumption products, they need to keep you interested and remembering them all the time to avoid losing marketshare.

We have a perfect recent example with Sakuna.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/243872/sakuna-of-rice-and-ruin-sold-a-combined-500k/



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