Burning Typhoon said:
kirby007 said: once you have seen a story it's finished, see Game of Thrones |
Every game that releases these days goes straight to twitch, and anyone can see the story of every game that comes out. The game still sold millions in it's first couple of days, so this simply is not true.
BraLoD said: A massive hate campaign was what happened, and people bought on it. What happened with it on Metacritic alone was unprecedent. It's by far the best game this year, which is really sad for those people missing on it. Probably still made ND good money already and they may make a TLoU2R like they did back with the original and the PS5 early day hype might help it a lot since there will be no hate campaign anymore, who knows. |
And why was there a massive hate campaign? There had to be something wrong with the game for there to be so much pushback against it, otherwise, there wouldn't be an unprecedented hate campaign on Metacritic. It wouldn't have gained so much traction and any hate for the game wouldn't have stuck.
Spoiler!
You do not take a character, who could sense when someone was lying and trying to ambush in the first game, and allow him to immediately trust a new person and a random group of people, all the while Tommy is going out and giving out names, like they don't know they've been murdering people to survive over 20 years. It's so foolish and comical that it's not even realistic by any stretch of the imagination. If you want to kill Joel so badly, and bring out the rage of the player to go after Abby you have to set-up Joel as being a competent, worthwhile character. He never would have done that in the first game, or he wouldn't have survived. How you handle the character is important.
Not to mention, the gameplay is suck in 2013. Outside of the graphics, there is nothing special about this game that couldn't have been done on PS3. Gameplay is almost exactly the same, with some minor rope climbing added. But what is this game doing outside of graphics that shows it's evolved over a 7 year period?
The ending of the game was a let down too. All that set-up, and Ellie is going around killing people without mercy, yet the ONE person the player WANTS to kill, and Ellie lets her go free? Abby would have died anyway. She was captured and Ellie saved her (what?) After Tommy asked her to leave Dena and the baby and go out and kill, or something? I'm foggy with the details. but Ellie's story was done. She had no reason to leave that house, and had she not, Abby would have died anyway. Too see her freed, and Ellie without a family, for no reason, was onr horrible let-down in the story out of many. It most definitely was not game of the generation, or game of the year, by a long shot, and I 100% disagree with your assessment.
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There was a zombie horde chasing them. He following Abby made perfect sense, remember besides Abby nobody welcoming him in the manor knew who was him, hence didn't act strangely or unfriendly towards him. Once they realize Joel was Joel, Joel immediately notice what was going on as well, but it was too late
The scene he was killed made perfect sense. People only got but-hurt because they were expecting some kind of uplifting and heroic death for a murderer in a post-apocalyptic world. Many people still not getting TLOU 2 is not a game of revenge or big acts, it's a very small and personal narrative about consequences and point of views
The way he died was just as small and unimportant as the people he killed before, and ultimately a consequence of his actions
And the whole scene wasn't about him, but about Ellie and later about Abby. It was a masterpiece crafted scene from a cinematic perspective, a quality quite overlooked in this game, it's not about graphics only but it's also voice acting, it's the editing, it's what angle camera is focusing, how the sound was editing to focused on different dialogues happening in the same time.
You may argue every of those things were possible 7 years ago, so what? Everything about Zelda BOTW could be done with 2010 technology and hardware, what make it special if how they use their resources to made what was not done before, whether it was technically possible or not. TLOU2 do the same, just not with gameplay