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I think the best is...

Original series 7 11.48%
 
The Next Generation 30 49.18%
 
Deep Space Nine 8 13.11%
 
Voyager 10 16.39%
 
Enterprise 3 4.92%
 
Discovery 2 3.28%
 
Picard 1 1.64%
 
Total:61
curl-6 said:
SvennoJ said:

Is it back on? I don't even know where I could watch it nowadays. I cancelled sci-fi channel since the only reasons for keeping it were put behind different streaming walls. I guess Discovery is on CBS all access, no access for me. No loss anyway. I wonder where the Orville went, that was still entertaining. Oh that jumped to Hulu, don't have that either. Whatever. Netflix (still) has the good star treks, I'm sticking with that.

It's on Netflix, at least it is for me here in Australia.

Not here, Enterprise is the latest. We do get Star Trek Beyond, but not the first two of the new movies. I have those on blu-ray anyway. The 'convenience' of streaming is going backwards :/



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SvennoJ said:
curl-6 said:

It's on Netflix, at least it is for me here in Australia.

Not here, Enterprise is the latest. We do get Star Trek Beyond, but not the first two of the new movies. I have those on blu-ray anyway. The 'convenience' of streaming is going backwards :/

It's damn weird for Australia to have more access/availability to series than other countries, usually we are way behind the majors markets in this regard.



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SvennoJ said:
curl-6 said:

I know it's not a popular opinion but I enjoy Discovery for what it is.

It's nowhere near the same league as DS9, Next Gen, or Voyager, but it can be some decent dumb fun. Anyone else just watch the first episode of Season 3? 

Is it back on? I don't even know where I could watch it nowadays. I cancelled sci-fi channel since the only reasons for keeping it were put behind different streaming walls. I guess Discovery is on CBS all access, no access for me. No loss anyway. I wonder where the Orville went, that was still entertaining. Oh that jumped to Hulu, don't have that either. Whatever. Netflix (still) has the good star treks, I'm sticking with that.

The Orville is going exclusively to Hulu for season 3. Earlier seasons were simulcast on both FOX and Hulu, and the Hulu viewer numbers were good, so when FOX announced that they wouldn't be airing season 3 due to the fact that it wouldn't be ready in time for the start of FOX's fall season, Hulu got the exclusive rights to it. 

Edit: I see you're in Canada, where Hulu isn't available yet (Disney isn't starting international expansion of Hulu until after they finish the international expansion of Disney+). I'm guessing CityTV will air The Orville in Canada still, not sure.

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 20 October 2020

I wonder how The Orville's viewership numbers compare with Discovery and Picard? Sadly we'll never know, since Netflix (which streams Discovery outside of the US), Amazon Prime (which streams Picard outside of the US), and CBS All-Access (which streams both shows in the US) don't disclose viewership numbers. I know that The Orville averaged over 5m views per episode on Fox in the US between live viewers and DVR viewers, and I remember reading a Seth MacFarlane interview where he said that Hulu viewers roughly doubled the Fox numbers, so that means 10m+ viewers per episode in the US, and The Orville is also aired in Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand, either on tv channels or streaming services, sadly we don't have viewership numbers for those 4 countries.

I suspect that The Orville is winning in viewers, though I can't say that for certain, especially since Discovery and Picard have wider reach due to Netflix and Amazon being available in alot more foreign countries than the 4 foreign countries The Orville is available in currently.

Edit: CBS did air the first episode of Discovery on their tv station in the US to try and get people hooked and watching it on CBS All-Access. That first episode got 9.5m viewers on CBS. The Orville by comparison is estimated to have got 12m viewers on it's first episode airing on Fox. 

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 20 October 2020

Well, I just finished watching Picard.

I honestly can't decide which I prefer between it and Discovery. Each has its own pros and cons.

Discovery has more of the fabric of the older shows in its values, and is more colourful both literally and figuratively, while Picard feels more grounded in the established Trek universe and is more tonally consistent, without the lurches from goofy to grimdark that could feel a little jarring in Discovery.

It was cool to see classic characters return in Picard, though while Picard and Seven were done justice, others like Hugh and Icheb were badly shortchanged. Though holy moly Jeri Ryan looks crazy good for being in her 50s. Isa Briones is pretty hot too. Discovery by contrast doesn't really have any hotties to speak of, at least not to my tastes.

On the whole, while I could nitpick a lot about both of them, I enjoyed both for what they were. They're not up there with Next Gen, Voyager, or DS9, but they're good fun.



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The Next Generation, as much as I love DS9, TNG just has those thought provoking deep episodes that sets it apart from the other shows. Episodes like Inner Light and Darmok.



Next Gen for me as well. Can't slam the OG series too much either, but it was made so long ago that it felt a little too "oldie" for me, with the acting style and whatnot. Next Gen was more for my generation and the cast of characters and the actors playing them were just unbeatable. I liked voyager as well, but I felt the cast wasn't as strong and Kate Mulgrew's charisma alone was pretty much carrying the show for me. DS9 felt a little boring because it was centered on a space station rather than an adventuring ship. After that, the following iterations have gone downhill at a rapidly increasing pace. We've come to the point where the latest shows have nothing to do with Star Trek but their names. They are just platforms to spew SJW politics, and the showrunners even say as much. Maybe some day we'll get actual Star Trek again, but I'm not holding my breath.



Star Trek is one of these weird franchises for me in that I kind of like (almost) all of them, but I don't really love any of them at the same time.  Here is my overall ranking based on what I've seen:

1) Voyager - I actually watched the entire first season, and I liked the entire cast.  I liked the concept of them being lost.  After the first season they changed the time slot on me and I stopped watching.

2) Enterprise - I watched a lot of the first season.  My friends would tape it, and we'd watch it together.  It came on really late on a weird night.  At a certain point I stopped watching it with my friends, and I missed the rest of the series.  I really like Scott Bakula and the rest of the cast is decent too.

3) Original - I like the original cast the best out of any generation.  If we were including the movies, then I might rate this cast as the top.  However, just going by the series it rates lower.  The cast is still great, and Kirk/Spock/Bones is like the holy trinity of Star Trek.  But something about the plots or execution makes these shows boring.  Not sure why.  Also I've seen the tribbles episode like 4-5 times while there are lots of episodes I've never seen once.  Not sure how or why that happened.

4) Next Generation - The only characters I like are Picard and Data.  Worf is ok.  The rest can be jettisoned into space.  The plots are better in this series, but I really don't like the cast.  I mostly watched this, because I had a friend that really liked it and it happened to be on when were hanging out together.

5) Deep Space 9 - I could never get into this show at all.  To me Star Trek is about exploration.  This is just some people hanging out at a space station together.

Those are all of the series I've seen.  I probably got attached to the original cast more from the movies though.  Star Trek 4 is a great movie that I've seen several times and I'd still enjoy watching again.  Star Trek 1 is also good even though the pacing is slow.  The other movies with the original cast are decent.  I really like the original cast, but often the writing/directing/editing doesn't do them justice.



Dante9 said:
We've come to the point where the latest shows have nothing to do with Star Trek but their names. They are just platforms to spew SJW politics, and the showrunners even say as much. Maybe some day we'll get actual Star Trek again, but I'm not holding my breath.

Star Trek has always been about social justice.

The original show had Black, Asian, and Russian bridge officers and the first inter-racial kiss on television back in the 1960s.

Deep Space Nine had a Black captain with a female first officer, Voyager had a female captain with a native American first officer.

Minority representation and progressive politics have been an integral part of the franchise's DNA for over half a century.



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Why does Netflix only have HD versions of TNG and Enterprise? Both DS9 and Voyager look potato quality and are effectively unwatchable for me because of how low the resolution is. Luckily I did watch DS9 a while ago.

I did finish watching Enterprise recently. Really picks up mid-way through season 2. Almost feel sad it didn't get the full 7 seasons.



             

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