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Idd, the game clearly was rushed for launch. Though the delay also means there it does leave a big hole in their launch lineup. But yeah I guess it won't matter to a lot of people since games like AC/WD Legion will be enough and can look forward to Cyberpunk and COD in the same month. Still, its pretty eh compared to their other launches *shrugs*.



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hinch said:
JWeinCom said:

Probably.

What was the PS2's killer app? X-Box 360? Nintendo DS? PS4? PS3? 

If you're saying "what has this world come to", it implies that past systems have always, or at least usually, had killer apps available at launch.

So, how are you defining killer app, and what have those killer apps been for past systems? If you can't come up with a decent answer to that, then the comment kind of seems trolly.

The PS2 actually had a very strong launch. A lot of which were exclusive.

Most other consoles I agree. Not the OG Xbox (Halo CE) mind and most definitely not the PS2. He was a bit hyperbolic though. The new Xbox launch lineup is looking like one of the weaker Xbox launches in recent history - particularly if you count new first/second party or exclusive third party games.

The specific claim was that launching without a killer app is something unusual. I'm not seeing the killer app on the PS2 lineup. The only one you could sort of argue for is Tekken Tag Tournament. And even if there was, we'd still have to show that consoles launching with killer apps is the norm and the PS2 is not the exception.



Technically EA Play and it’s games will be available launch day. Provided you have Game Pass. Still, that’s some nice value in place of heavy hitters.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

axumblade said:
You have Yakuza listed twice.

Honestly, I don't think anything I am looking forward to is coming until The Medium but we still have 2 months that can change things. Valhalla looks great and I might be playing games I skipped this gen for whatever reason on Gamepass.

Thanks. Already corrected.



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I don't know Tekken and Street Fighter were pretty big franchises ins that era. They certainly were console sellers back then. I know I bought a PS2 back in the day for those, plus Timesplitters. But you're probably right, console launches are usually quite weak and don't usually come with a killer app from out of the gate.

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hinch said:

@JWeinCom

I don't know Tekken and Street Fighter were pretty big franchises back then. They certainly were console sellers back then. I know I bought a PS2 back in the day for those, plus Timesplitters. But you're probably right, console launches are usually quite weak and don't usually come with a killer app from out of the gate.

This ain't Street Fighter, this is Street Fighter EX. Definitely not a system seller. Sold under a million by our numbers.

You could make a better argument for Tekken Tag Tournament which sold about 4 million, but to me that's kind of pushing the definition of killer app. Also, debatable about whether that should count as an exclusive, as it'd been out at arcades for about a year by the time PS2 launched.

Again though, you can argue that the launch lineup is pretty weak, and weaker than the PS2. I'd probably agree on both of those. But to argue that this is some kind of unprecedently bad launch is a different argument that smacks of trolling.



Now you're accusing of trolling. I was just replying to the PS2 launch lineup not being garbo. But sure whatever... Leaving this topic.



Despite all the arguing over them, launch libraries are largely meaningless. Also, the only real launch-day killer app on either PlayStation or Xbox in the entire history of either brand was Halo CE on the OXbox. There was nothing else that really stood the test of time as one of the all-time greats or even as a simply game that pushed the limits of the hardware it ran on. There were some decent games to be had on all of them, but nothing so groundbreaking, revolutionary, or just plain good to make most people think "Wow! I have to get this system on day one to play this game!" The only brand to consistently have some major must-have game at launch has been Nintendo (and even then only their home consoles, Switch included).

What matters is the long term, and in that regards it's a marathon, not a sprint. Both systems will have excellent libraries, more than enough to justify a purchase of either one. I've bought/picked up three systems on launch day (soon to be four once the PS5 is released). I didn't get them for the games that were released for it that day. I bought them for what I expected to be getting in the months and years ahead. I like to get at least one system from a given generation fairly early, plus there was no telling if stock would be a persistent long-term issue for the ones I've gotten day one, so I decided to preorder. It had nothing to do with the launch titles available.



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Let me clarify. If neither the ps5 or series x launch without a game that shows off what next gen is all about, somethimg impressive not seen on current gen, coud be graphics, physics, Ai , then it's a failure in my opinion.



Has there ever been a game that demoed what a next gen console is capable of, on launch window?
And for a full admission price?
Except Halo:CE. Everything else I can think of are useless tech demos.

Series X got Bright Memory: Infinite on launch day, which is the most impressive looking game that will be released this year. It has some crazy physics and Ray Tracing implementation. Gears 5 is supposed to receive an impressive update as well.