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Alright, upon reflection I think I actually do have something to say on the matter.

Honestly, I think Sony is doing the right thing here by balancing out the needs of the platform holder with the needs of the community and consumers. They get the immediate effect of making their platform have value by giving it exclusives, thus driving console sales and strengthening the brand, and then once the effect has worn off, they expand to PC so those who weren't gonna buy a PS5 for the game anyway can still play it. IT makes PC gamers happy, it expands sales that wouldn't have happened otherwise by opening up another platform, and it doesn't interfere with anything that helps the platform itself.

Literally everyone wins.

With Microsoft just releasing on PC day and date, it doesn't give any incentive to get an Xbox if you already have a PC, and Nintendo going on handhelds is...well, it's not DAMAGING the brand but it's not helping either. I think what Sony is doing is a nice balance between being loose with the exclusives like Microsoft and tight like Nintendo. I always felt that somewhere in between would be best because I always found Nintendo a bit too restrictive and Microsoft a bit too relaxed.

Another example where all three brands are doing slightly different, so it doesn't matter where you go you have something.

To OP: Either buy it or don't. It's up to you. If you personally feel that they're doing it wrong, that's fine. I still don't understand why you felt the need to make a thread about it. IT appears you're in a very small minority and your arguments aren't widespread or anything.



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kazuyamishima said:
The only Sony game on Pc at the moment is HZD and they are “exploring” not confirming their games could go to PC.

But yeah let’s Over react!

One could argue that Death Stranding is also on PC and thus ... something? I dunno. I like the idea of PS games going to PC after a couple of years. It ensures the brand stays strong and Sony can continue making games that are great, while also being able to include my 'PC master race' peeps in the long run. 



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Cerebralbore101 said:

Because without long term financial health a company either goes under or winds up charging more for it's goods and services.

Except you never bothered to share your genius financial forecasting with us, oh mighty investment guru. I mean, this must be great news for you as now you can short Sony and be guaranteed mega profits, but really us mortals do like it when people "show their work" and don't just make grandiose assertions that happen to be negative on targets they feel hate for. So what is the additional sales figure on PC platform, btw? I mean, I know you are forecasting total sales decline, but coming from zero or near zero on PC it's clear that component will grow... how much, oh celestial accountant?

How does Epic deal figure into this? IMHO seems like that arrangement might lead to Epic cofinancing Sony games, and thus allow more total games some of which may be available from beginning even if others are held to console only time window. Really it seems the basis of your "sales decline" prediction is your own aversion to Sony (albeit premised on unrequited attraction), yet clearly this thread shows that isn't a common sentiment. (and if you want claim it's full of Sony fan boys, well, yeah that is Sony's Playstation audience who do buy into their ecosystem and it happens to be huge, with even the minority using PSVR being by far biggest component of total VR market). If you don't like consoles then you probably aren't Sony's target market currently, and it's not like they need to sell to every PC gamer to be successful. Grandiose claims just make you look impotent with a chip on your shoulder.


I also don't get the complaints on "now Sony has 2 bad options I don't like". Like who cares dude, the 1st is their console game business which has been the entirety or near-so of their game business for decades, that's what Sony does. So why gripe now? It's like if somebody doesn't like motorcycles and they are going to gripe at Harley Davidson releasing new model of motorcycle next year. If Sony has always made exclusive console games, why is your expectations being ruined now? Then the 2nd is if they release some game later in 3 years on PC... Not sure how this is different than all the "remaster" games that get released anyways, but again if you don't like that game don't buy it, most people aren't buying most Sony games. Plenty of people don't buy games at full price and wait longer to do so, so how is your sentiment here fundamentally different? Companies like Sony know that, which is why they drop prices in the first place, so they will eventually get there.


Lastly, I don't get the "they are following American business way". Well, yeah sure in a sense. But it seems more like the console exclusivity pattern is more tied to Japanese companies, with MS first to break from that and American companies all about multiplatform with variety of distribution. Which is done for.... bigger profits and stock prices, loved by MS just as much as Nintendo. I question how this line of thought relates to your forecast of financial woe though, because Japanese corporate management has rather bad reputation in most investment circles. Even if you assume the American model is long term (how long?) negative for a company, it's basically meaningless to say "Sony is acting American, therefore they decline" with no backing details... A general trend is not a physical law of nature. I get the impression you never really "did the work" and aren't seriously committed to your financial forecast of Sony, it's just a cheap hit to gratify your own perspective that equates your own "consumer boycott" to hypothetical mass market shift. That's called narcicism, BTW, which you can get help for.

Last edited by mutantsushi - on 30 August 2020

sales2099 said:

OP said PC is the way to go with this new initiative. As someone who would rather spend hundreds on a console then thousands on a cutting edge PC I just wanted to say the opposite is still viable. 

Yeah, but the main core focus was due to the Sony article, and the focus on exclusives going to another platform. The opposite is also true as well. 



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Runa216 said:
kazuyamishima said:
The only Sony game on Pc at the moment is HZD and they are “exploring” not confirming their games could go to PC.

But yeah let’s Over react!

One could argue that Death Stranding is also on PC and thus ... something? I dunno. I like the idea of PS games going to PC after a couple of years. It ensures the brand stays strong and Sony can continue making games that are great, while also being able to include my 'PC master race' peeps in the long run. 

I agree with your point on this, however in Death Stranding's case it was announced as coming to PC back when Andrew House and Kojima announced the Playstation partnership to begin with, so there wasn't really much of a shock there. In HZD's case it caught some people off guard because it was 1st party. 

After just reading more into this, it appears Twitter just deactivated a guys account who was threatening to kill Sony executives over this ordeal. 



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Blood_Tears said:

After just reading more into this, it appears Twitter just deactivated a guys account who was threatening to kill Sony executives over this ordeal. 

Cerebralbore, you need to calm down and turn your self in, there are people that want to help you.

Blood_Tears said:
Runa216 said:

One could argue that Death Stranding is also on PC and thus ... something? I dunno. I like the idea of PS games going to PC after a couple of years. It ensures the brand stays strong and Sony can continue making games that are great, while also being able to include my 'PC master race' peeps in the long run. 

I agree with your point on this, however in Death Stranding's case it was announced as coming to PC back when Andrew House and Kojima announced the Playstation partnership to begin with, so there wasn't really much of a shock there. In HZD's case it caught some people off guard because it was 1st party. 

After just reading more into this, it appears Twitter just deactivated a guys account who was threatening to kill Sony executives over this ordeal. 

Wait, did I miss something here? 

Seriously, this is why we can't have nice, fantasy violent things. 



My Console Library:

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PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

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I wonder when (if) sarcastic Rol will show up doing his usual "I've decided to boycott the PS5".



Definitely one of these cases where you just need to focus on things you enjoy. Life is too short for this tribal nonsense which will obviously make zero impact on sonys actions



I 'am getting my exclusive game day one on my Playstation
that why I bought it
I can't care less if PC will get it the game or not