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Forums - Sales Discussion - Famitsu Sales: Week 32, 2020 (Aug 03 - Aug 09)

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xMetroid said:
curl-6 said:

Which insiders are saying a general direct on the 28th? Can you please link me to their statements?

They don't want it to go out anymore, they are using stuff to hide comments on Resetera now, but it's Cap and Nate as usual. Grubb also think there is a indie next week.

They're usually reliable I guess. It's just so hard to have hope after nearly a year of constant disappointment and silence.



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curl-6 said:
TheBraveGallade said:

elaborate on why you think so? i don't think there is much evidence to say that this is true quite yet.

besides globally they are only slightly abouve ps4

I just feel like at the moment they're like "we sell like crack without even trying, so why bother actually communicating with our fans or releasing new games?"

to be fair, its mostly cause of COVID-19 throwing every scedule out the window. and you know how nintendo usually doesn't like announcing games unless they are pretty close to realese. plus, getting everyone in a studio is a risk, and especially nintendo, who KNOWS thier personnel is the most important part of their company, might not be willing to risk it.

more then nintendo though, I think its more becasue third parties are in chaos



RolStoppable said:

It's becoming increasingly unlikely that Switch will finish 2020 below 6.0m for the year. Switch Lite has clearly established itself as additive business, because the hybrid SKU keeps holding its own; despite no price cut, it's outpacing its own performance of 2019. The same holds true for global sales.

Week 2019 Weekly 2019 Cumulative 2020 Weekly 2020 Cumulative Difference Weekly Difference Cumulative
1 225.698 225.698 284.827 284.827 59.129 59.129
2 83.136 308.834 116.301 401.128 33.165 92.294
3 71.672 380.506 96.458 497.586 24.786 117.080
4 51.556 432.062 67.987 565.573 16.431 133.511
5 66.448 498.510 75.922 641.495 9.474 142.985
6 61.042 559.552 100.961 741.456 39.919 181.904
7 64.313 623.865 80.312 821.948 15.999 198.083
8 49.139 673.004 41.490 863.258 -7.649 190.254
9 66.453 739.457 53.098 916.356 -13.355 176.899
10 67.624 807.081 50.585 967.941 -17.039 160.860
11 55.478 862.559 57.274 1.025.215 1.796 162.656
12 56.812 919.371 392.576 1.417.791 335.764 498.420
13 49.852 969.223 282.561 1.700.352 232.709 731.129
14 46.850 1.016.073 154.640 1.854.992 107.790 838.919
15 54.101 1.070.174 25.313 1.880.305 -28.788 810.131
16 40.338 1.110.512 27.874 1.908.179 -12.464 797.667
17 42.108 1.152.620 107.104 2.015.284 64.996 862.664
18 41.735 1.194.355 78.731 2.094.015 36.996 899.660
19 41.736 1.236.091 78.731 2.172.746 36.995 936.655
20 32.564 1.268.655 38.380 2.211.126 5.816 942.471
21 25.936 1.294.591 52.557 2.263.683 26.621 969.092
22 33.154 1.327.745 107.593 2.371.276 74.439 1.043.531
23 33.590 1.361.335 68.192 2.439.468 34.602 1.078.133
24 34.321 1.395.656 55.187 2.494.655 20.866 1.098.999
25 29.058 1.424.714 78.428 2.573.083 49.370 1.148.369
26 59.184 1.483.898 93.799 2.666.882 34.615 1.182.984
27 75.481 1.559.379 52.250 2.719.132 -23.231 1.159.753
28 55.823 1.615.202 96.879 2.816.011 41.056 1.200.809
29 45.596 1.660.798 113.197 2.929.208 67.601 1.268.410
30 42.689 1.703.487 125.231 3.054.439 82.542 1.350.952
31 36.613 1.740.100 86.605 3.141.044 49.992 1.400.944
32 46.338 1.786.438 173.338 3.314.382 127.000 1.527.944
33 46.339 1.832.777
34 30.072 1.862.849
35 90.553 1.953.402
36 77.392 2.030.794
37 51.619 2.082.413
38 239.740 2.322.153
39 196.489 2.518.642
40 89.137 2.607.779
41 56.680 2.664.459
42 54.067 2.718.526
43 69.438 2.787.964
44 119.397 2.907.361
45 88.772 2.996.133
46 180.136 3.176.269
47 179.992 3.356.261
48 186.763 3.543.024
49 188.501 3.731.525
50 236.625 3.968.150
51 291.485 4.259.614
52 234.268 4.493.885

The big question is: Will the Switch be able to reach double the sales before the launch of the Lite makes that close to impossible? It's just 250k behind doubling last year's sales in the same timeframe, so it's quite possible if the sales can stay around 110k weekly.



src said:
Marth said:

lol

List of best sellers:

Capcom : MHW (8-10 million on PS4)

SE: prior FFXV (7 million+ on PS4), now FF7R (PS4 exclusive)

TK: Nioh (PS4 timed exclusive)

Atlus: Persona 5 (PS4 exclusive)

NB: DBZ/Naruto/Tekken (all had the vast majority of sales/userbase on PS4)

DBZ? Where a late Switch port outsold the original PS4 release? Yeah, right...

Also, FF XV is available on XBO, and more crucially, PC. Those 7M are across all platforms (actually, it's 8.9M by now), and I doubt PS4 makes more than 5M out of them. Also, considering all the hype around the game, FF7R sales can be described as lackluster at best. It passed 5M just recently, where the original sold twice that on a much smaller install base.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 16 August 2020

Bofferbrauer2 said:
RolStoppable said:

It's becoming increasingly unlikely that Switch will finish 2020 below 6.0m for the year. Switch Lite has clearly established itself as additive business, because the hybrid SKU keeps holding its own; despite no price cut, it's outpacing its own performance of 2019. The same holds true for global sales.

Week 2019 Weekly 2019 Cumulative 2020 Weekly 2020 Cumulative Difference Weekly Difference Cumulative
1 225.698 225.698 284.827 284.827 59.129 59.129
2 83.136 308.834 116.301 401.128 33.165 92.294
3 71.672 380.506 96.458 497.586 24.786 117.080
4 51.556 432.062 67.987 565.573 16.431 133.511
5 66.448 498.510 75.922 641.495 9.474 142.985
6 61.042 559.552 100.961 741.456 39.919 181.904
7 64.313 623.865 80.312 821.948 15.999 198.083
8 49.139 673.004 41.490 863.258 -7.649 190.254
9 66.453 739.457 53.098 916.356 -13.355 176.899
10 67.624 807.081 50.585 967.941 -17.039 160.860
11 55.478 862.559 57.274 1.025.215 1.796 162.656
12 56.812 919.371 392.576 1.417.791 335.764 498.420
13 49.852 969.223 282.561 1.700.352 232.709 731.129
14 46.850 1.016.073 154.640 1.854.992 107.790 838.919
15 54.101 1.070.174 25.313 1.880.305 -28.788 810.131
16 40.338 1.110.512 27.874 1.908.179 -12.464 797.667
17 42.108 1.152.620 107.104 2.015.284 64.996 862.664
18 41.735 1.194.355 78.731 2.094.015 36.996 899.660
19 41.736 1.236.091 78.731 2.172.746 36.995 936.655
20 32.564 1.268.655 38.380 2.211.126 5.816 942.471
21 25.936 1.294.591 52.557 2.263.683 26.621 969.092
22 33.154 1.327.745 107.593 2.371.276 74.439 1.043.531
23 33.590 1.361.335 68.192 2.439.468 34.602 1.078.133
24 34.321 1.395.656 55.187 2.494.655 20.866 1.098.999
25 29.058 1.424.714 78.428 2.573.083 49.370 1.148.369
26 59.184 1.483.898 93.799 2.666.882 34.615 1.182.984
27 75.481 1.559.379 52.250 2.719.132 -23.231 1.159.753
28 55.823 1.615.202 96.879 2.816.011 41.056 1.200.809
29 45.596 1.660.798 113.197 2.929.208 67.601 1.268.410
30 42.689 1.703.487 125.231 3.054.439 82.542 1.350.952
31 36.613 1.740.100 86.605 3.141.044 49.992 1.400.944
32 46.338 1.786.438 173.338 3.314.382 127.000 1.527.944
33 46.339 1.832.777
34 30.072 1.862.849
35 90.553 1.953.402
36 77.392 2.030.794
37 51.619 2.082.413
38 239.740 2.322.153
39 196.489 2.518.642
40 89.137 2.607.779
41 56.680 2.664.459
42 54.067 2.718.526
43 69.438 2.787.964
44 119.397 2.907.361
45 88.772 2.996.133
46 180.136 3.176.269
47 179.992 3.356.261
48 186.763 3.543.024
49 188.501 3.731.525
50 236.625 3.968.150
51 291.485 4.259.614
52 234.268 4.493.885

The big question is: Will the Switch be able to reach double the sales before the launch of the Lite makes that close to impossible? It's just 250k behind doubling last year's sales in the same timeframe, so it's quite possible if the sales can stay around 110k weekly.

Does it have a chance??? It has to do it before W38 but I dunno.... 110k weekly won’t do the trick, it has to be done by week 34 cuz 35-37 NSW would need 200k weeklys for. Check it out below....

2019 (x2) vs 2020!!!

W32: 3566k - 3314k

W33: 3666k

W34: 3726k

W35: 3907k 

W36: 4062k

W37: 4165k

W38: lol 

edit: it needs to sell 413k in 2 weeks, but the drop after ObON might be rough. I can see W33 doing 250k, if it does then it would need 163k the following week. Or maybe but only if W33 is massive with something like 300k then it’s definitely more doable with a follow up at 113k weekly

looking at week35 it needs just under 600k in 3 weeks, that’s when hope is lost imo. Let’s hope it gets 413k sales then!!



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tbone51 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

The big question is: Will the Switch be able to reach double the sales before the launch of the Lite makes that close to impossible? It's just 250k behind doubling last year's sales in the same timeframe, so it's quite possible if the sales can stay around 110k weekly.

Does it have a chance??? It has to do it before W38 but I dunno.... 110k weekly won’t do the trick, it has to be done by week 34 cuz 35-37 NSW would need 200k weeklys for. Check it out below....

2019 (x2) vs 2020!!!

W32: 3566k - 3314k

W33: 3666k

W34: 3726k

W35: 3907k 

W36: 4062k

W37: 4165k

W38: lol 

edit: it needs to sell 413k in 2 weeks, but the drop after ObON might be rough. I can see W33 doing 250k, if it does then it would need 163k the following week. Or maybe but only if W33 is massive with something like 300k then it’s definitely more doable with a follow up at 113k weekly

looking at week35 it needs just under 600k in 3 weeks, that’s when hope is lost imo. Let’s hope it gets 413k sales then!!

Yeah, I miscalculated. I took the numbers from now for last year instead of in 5 weeks, my bad. Which means it would need 172k per week, and that's just too much.



src said:
OTBWY said:

Let's not pretend there wasn't huge moneyhatting going on.

Sony doesn't even need to moneyhat Capcom anymore. Like most JP third parties, their best selling games of all time have happened due to the Playstation ecosystem and Sony knows that, so the will continue with that ecosystem.

Only third party franchise I can see Sony moneyhatting for domestic reasons is DQ12.

So you're saying that third parties should just ignore the Switch, even when its selling at a record breaking pace worldwide (especially in Japan)?

I hope DQ12 comes to Switch, alongside PS4 and/or PS5. It would be a waste and a shame to ignore an established userbase (in Japan and the rest of the world) that has already connected with DQ with the Builder games, DQXIS, and the first three games of the mainline series that were ported to Switch. Not to mention having the Hero included in Smash Ultimate, the best-selling fighting game of all-time.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
tbone51 said:

Does it have a chance??? It has to do it before W38 but I dunno.... 110k weekly won’t do the trick, it has to be done by week 34 cuz 35-37 NSW would need 200k weeklys for. Check it out below....

2019 (x2) vs 2020!!!

W32: 3566k - 3314k

W33: 3666k

W34: 3726k

W35: 3907k 

W36: 4062k

W37: 4165k

W38: lol 

edit: it needs to sell 413k in 2 weeks, but the drop after ObON might be rough. I can see W33 doing 250k, if it does then it would need 163k the following week. Or maybe but only if W33 is massive with something like 300k then it’s definitely more doable with a follow up at 113k weekly

looking at week35 it needs just under 600k in 3 weeks, that’s when hope is lost imo. Let’s hope it gets 413k sales then!!

Yeah, I miscalculated. I took the numbers from now for last year instead of in 5 weeks, my bad. Which means it would need 172k per week, and that's just too much.

Only if your going to that week, don’t lose  hope for these 2 weeks!!



Kai_Mao said:
src said:

Sony doesn't even need to moneyhat Capcom anymore. Like most JP third parties, their best selling games of all time have happened due to the Playstation ecosystem and Sony knows that, so the will continue with that ecosystem.

Only third party franchise I can see Sony moneyhatting for domestic reasons is DQ12.

So you're saying that third parties should just ignore the Switch, even when its selling at a record breaking pace worldwide (especially in Japan)?

I hope DQ12 comes to Switch, alongside PS4 and/or PS5. It would be a waste and a shame to ignore an established userbase (in Japan and the rest of the world) that has already connected with DQ with the Builder games, DQXIS, and the first three games of the mainline series that were ported to Switch. Not to mention having the Hero included in Smash Ultimate, the best-selling fighting game of all-time.

Yeah it would be incredibly foolish not to release DQ12 on Switch when the series is Japan-centric in sales and Playstation as a platform is getting less and less relevant there.



curl-6 said:
Kai_Mao said:

So you're saying that third parties should just ignore the Switch, even when its selling at a record breaking pace worldwide (especially in Japan)?

I hope DQ12 comes to Switch, alongside PS4 and/or PS5. It would be a waste and a shame to ignore an established userbase (in Japan and the rest of the world) that has already connected with DQ with the Builder games, DQXIS, and the first three games of the mainline series that were ported to Switch. Not to mention having the Hero included in Smash Ultimate, the best-selling fighting game of all-time.

Yeah it would be incredibly foolish not to release DQ12 on Switch when the series is Japan-centric in sales and Playstation as a platform is getting less and less relevant there.

Well yeah that's a no brainer. DQXI launched on 3DS so Switch will obviously take the place of 3DS. Probably only reason it launched (way) late on Switch is because development started way before the Switch launched since the game came out just a few months after the Switch launch, and they probably didn't make the Switch port a priority after that because having just launched they knew the Switch user base would be low for a bit.

DQXII will obviously have a same day launch on Switch and the Switch sales should completely dwarf Sony sales of the game.