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Forums - Sales Discussion - Famitsu Sales: Week 32, 2020 (Aug 03 - Aug 09)

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The way the Switch, AC and RFA never stop blowing me away

The Switch will easily end up doing 7M+ for the whole year (unless there's some tragic stock problems during the holiday).



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curl-6 said:
xMetroid said:

There is 2 directs coming this month, just patience. I agreed before, but seeing Halo getting delayed, a LAUNCH title, you can feel the impact of the quarantine in this. They have the Mario collection probably in September still. I know we didn't get much info but it's not only because they are selling out, but mostly cause they probably weren't sure of their own release schedule. Mind you, we still don't really know much about next gen either and they are releasing in like 3 months.

Have to say for the sales tho, incredible performance for the Switch. Kinda scary for anyone to try and launch a system in this environment. 

We'll see; if there is indeed a proper Direct this month (I'm highly skeptical) that actually announces some significant new games and/or gives updates on major games like BOTW2 or at least promised 2020 releases like No More Heroes 3 then I'll agree I was getting hyperbolic.

The problem is, I've been hearing "there's a big Direct coming soon" for almost a year now, and it's never materialized.

The year has been uncertain and plans have changed a lot. Same people who were right about the exact date and how the Partner Direct would happen are saying there is a General direct the 28th. Just got said today, there never pointed out what it was back with the partner, but assumed since they heard about some titles coming soon (Mario collection, pikmin 3, etc) so they thought they would announce them there. But Nintendo pulled a stupid marketing move no one could see coming.

Insiders don't know everything clear, they have to analyze and predict. That said, they seem certain there is a general one on this time. It links with the usual time it happens and with Nintendo having for sure a September and November or December game to announce (or else they would have moved Paper Mario to holiday tbh, July could have stayed empty if the holidays didn't have a title.)



xMetroid said:
curl-6 said:

We'll see; if there is indeed a proper Direct this month (I'm highly skeptical) that actually announces some significant new games and/or gives updates on major games like BOTW2 or at least promised 2020 releases like No More Heroes 3 then I'll agree I was getting hyperbolic.

The problem is, I've been hearing "there's a big Direct coming soon" for almost a year now, and it's never materialized.

The year has been uncertain and plans have changed a lot. Same people who were right about the exact date and how the Partner Direct would happen are saying there is a General direct the 28th. Just got said today, there never pointed out what it was back with the partner, but assumed since they heard about some titles coming soon (Mario collection, pikmin 3, etc) so they thought they would announce them there. But Nintendo pulled a stupid marketing move no one could see coming.

Insiders don't know everything clear, they have to analyze and predict. That said, they seem certain there is a general one on this time. It links with the usual time it happens and with Nintendo having for sure a September and November or December game to announce (or else they would have moved Paper Mario to holiday tbh, July could have stayed empty if the holidays didn't have a title.)

Which insiders are saying a general direct on the 28th? Can you please link me to their statements?



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

(Taiwan)
Media Create Sales Week 32, 2020 (3 Aug - 9 Aug)


01./02. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
02./03. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.31}
03./00. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo) {2018.10.05}
04./04. [PS4] Ghost of Tsushima (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2020.07.17}
05./00. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28}

Top 5

NSW - 4
PS4 - 1

(South Korea)
Media Create Sales Week 32, 2020 (3 Aug - 9 Aug)


01./01. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
02./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18}
03./04. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15}
04./00. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
05./05. [NSW] Paper Mario: The Origami King (Nintendo) {2020.07.17}

Top 5

NSW - 5



curl-6 said:
xMetroid said:

The year has been uncertain and plans have changed a lot. Same people who were right about the exact date and how the Partner Direct would happen are saying there is a General direct the 28th. Just got said today, there never pointed out what it was back with the partner, but assumed since they heard about some titles coming soon (Mario collection, pikmin 3, etc) so they thought they would announce them there. But Nintendo pulled a stupid marketing move no one could see coming.

Insiders don't know everything clear, they have to analyze and predict. That said, they seem certain there is a general one on this time. It links with the usual time it happens and with Nintendo having for sure a September and November or December game to announce (or else they would have moved Paper Mario to holiday tbh, July could have stayed empty if the holidays didn't have a title.)

Which insiders are saying a general direct on the 28th? Can you please link me to their statements?

They don't want it to go out anymore, they are using stuff to hide comments on Resetera now, but it's Cap and Nate as usual. Grubb also think there is a indie next week.



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OTBWY said:
src said:

List of best sellers:

Capcom : MHW (8-10 million on PS4)

SE: prior FFXV (7 million+ on PS4), now FF7R (PS4 exclusive)

TK: Nioh (PS4 timed exclusive)

Atlus: Persona 5 (PS4 exclusive)

NB: DBZ/Naruto/Tekken (all had the vast majority of sales/userbase on PS4)

Let's not pretend there wasn't huge moneyhatting going on.

Proceeds to pretend there isn't huge moneyhatting going on.

Spoiler!
Even lists obvious moneyhats


Marth said:

lol

Every platform holder uses moneyhats. The only difference is some platform holders have more power over third parties than others. Nintendo and MS would do the same if they could but the latter lost their grasp on third parties generations ago as soon as Sony entered and the former is pretty much bowing out of the console race unable to compete with Sony.

Agente42 said:
src said:

Sony doesn't even need to moneyhat Capcom anymore. Like most JP third parties, their best selling games of all time have happened due to the Playstation ecosystem and Sony knows that, so the will continue with that ecosystem.

Only third party franchise I can see Sony moneyhatting for domestic reasons is DQ12.

SF 2 is in Playstatin ecosystem? Minecraft? Just Dance? Dragon Quest? 

MHW is Capcoms best selling game. MC and JD are Western games. DQ is outsold by FF and KH, the latter two heavily tied with Playstation.



xMetroid said:
curl-6 said:

Which insiders are saying a general direct on the 28th? Can you please link me to their statements?

They don't want it to go out anymore, they are using stuff to hide comments on Resetera now, but it's Cap and Nate as usual. Grubb also think there is a indie next week.

They're usually reliable I guess. It's just so hard to have hope after nearly a year of constant disappointment and silence.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:
TheBraveGallade said:

elaborate on why you think so? i don't think there is much evidence to say that this is true quite yet.

besides globally they are only slightly abouve ps4

I just feel like at the moment they're like "we sell like crack without even trying, so why bother actually communicating with our fans or releasing new games?"

to be fair, its mostly cause of COVID-19 throwing every scedule out the window. and you know how nintendo usually doesn't like announcing games unless they are pretty close to realese. plus, getting everyone in a studio is a risk, and especially nintendo, who KNOWS thier personnel is the most important part of their company, might not be willing to risk it.

more then nintendo though, I think its more becasue third parties are in chaos



RolStoppable said:

It's becoming increasingly unlikely that Switch will finish 2020 below 6.0m for the year. Switch Lite has clearly established itself as additive business, because the hybrid SKU keeps holding its own; despite no price cut, it's outpacing its own performance of 2019. The same holds true for global sales.

Week 2019 Weekly 2019 Cumulative 2020 Weekly 2020 Cumulative Difference Weekly Difference Cumulative
1 225.698 225.698 284.827 284.827 59.129 59.129
2 83.136 308.834 116.301 401.128 33.165 92.294
3 71.672 380.506 96.458 497.586 24.786 117.080
4 51.556 432.062 67.987 565.573 16.431 133.511
5 66.448 498.510 75.922 641.495 9.474 142.985
6 61.042 559.552 100.961 741.456 39.919 181.904
7 64.313 623.865 80.312 821.948 15.999 198.083
8 49.139 673.004 41.490 863.258 -7.649 190.254
9 66.453 739.457 53.098 916.356 -13.355 176.899
10 67.624 807.081 50.585 967.941 -17.039 160.860
11 55.478 862.559 57.274 1.025.215 1.796 162.656
12 56.812 919.371 392.576 1.417.791 335.764 498.420
13 49.852 969.223 282.561 1.700.352 232.709 731.129
14 46.850 1.016.073 154.640 1.854.992 107.790 838.919
15 54.101 1.070.174 25.313 1.880.305 -28.788 810.131
16 40.338 1.110.512 27.874 1.908.179 -12.464 797.667
17 42.108 1.152.620 107.104 2.015.284 64.996 862.664
18 41.735 1.194.355 78.731 2.094.015 36.996 899.660
19 41.736 1.236.091 78.731 2.172.746 36.995 936.655
20 32.564 1.268.655 38.380 2.211.126 5.816 942.471
21 25.936 1.294.591 52.557 2.263.683 26.621 969.092
22 33.154 1.327.745 107.593 2.371.276 74.439 1.043.531
23 33.590 1.361.335 68.192 2.439.468 34.602 1.078.133
24 34.321 1.395.656 55.187 2.494.655 20.866 1.098.999
25 29.058 1.424.714 78.428 2.573.083 49.370 1.148.369
26 59.184 1.483.898 93.799 2.666.882 34.615 1.182.984
27 75.481 1.559.379 52.250 2.719.132 -23.231 1.159.753
28 55.823 1.615.202 96.879 2.816.011 41.056 1.200.809
29 45.596 1.660.798 113.197 2.929.208 67.601 1.268.410
30 42.689 1.703.487 125.231 3.054.439 82.542 1.350.952
31 36.613 1.740.100 86.605 3.141.044 49.992 1.400.944
32 46.338 1.786.438 173.338 3.314.382 127.000 1.527.944
33 46.339 1.832.777
34 30.072 1.862.849
35 90.553 1.953.402
36 77.392 2.030.794
37 51.619 2.082.413
38 239.740 2.322.153
39 196.489 2.518.642
40 89.137 2.607.779
41 56.680 2.664.459
42 54.067 2.718.526
43 69.438 2.787.964
44 119.397 2.907.361
45 88.772 2.996.133
46 180.136 3.176.269
47 179.992 3.356.261
48 186.763 3.543.024
49 188.501 3.731.525
50 236.625 3.968.150
51 291.485 4.259.614
52 234.268 4.493.885

The big question is: Will the Switch be able to reach double the sales before the launch of the Lite makes that close to impossible? It's just 250k behind doubling last year's sales in the same timeframe, so it's quite possible if the sales can stay around 110k weekly.



src said:
Marth said:

lol

List of best sellers:

Capcom : MHW (8-10 million on PS4)

SE: prior FFXV (7 million+ on PS4), now FF7R (PS4 exclusive)

TK: Nioh (PS4 timed exclusive)

Atlus: Persona 5 (PS4 exclusive)

NB: DBZ/Naruto/Tekken (all had the vast majority of sales/userbase on PS4)

DBZ? Where a late Switch port outsold the original PS4 release? Yeah, right...

Also, FF XV is available on XBO, and more crucially, PC. Those 7M are across all platforms (actually, it's 8.9M by now), and I doubt PS4 makes more than 5M out of them. Also, considering all the hype around the game, FF7R sales can be described as lackluster at best. It passed 5M just recently, where the original sold twice that on a much smaller install base.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 16 August 2020