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Forums - Sony Discussion - Leaked Price of PS5 - MAJOR GRAIN OF SALT

konnichiwa on 07 August 2020
John2290 said:
How is that salt in the wound, The price is well below what could be expected and after the massive hit they are already taking here they are taking 60-80 on the disc drive. I was budgeting PCs and for me here in Ireland, P&P included with components from scratch I'm looking at 1500 for what is needed to just keep up with it and 1800 to have a slight edge for future proofing, I'm probably not great at finding components that are off brand but still, I can't imagine paying anything less than double and as long as that digital version is under 400 I'm satisfied, I hope these are true because i was getting very worried about prices and having to budget those release games and also the HD camera which will be needed for VR ontop of another years PS+ and things keep raking up. If these are the prices and stock is there I'll be in early 2021, hoping to get some discount on the january sales for the games but if it's any higher than this I'm waiting til next November.

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DonFerrari on 07 August 2020
Otter said:
DonFerrari said:

Some people only look for the short time saving.

I think most people are actually concerned about cashflow then they are about overall spend in a generation and that makes sense. Spending $10 extra here and there isn't going to hurt you, but $100 in one month goes a long way.

Well if 100 USD more is such a big problem for that person then better not really even expend the 400 already, but yes I know people think different and that is why it would make sense for Sony to offer a 100 cheaper version.

Manlytears said:
DonFerrari said:

Some people only look for the short time saving.

Are you sure man? i mean, we are both from Brazil and $100 dollars cheaper Ps5 will be translated in over R$700 easy. Considering prices in Brazil, i think only people adept to used games market are going to see a return, and there is also the possibility of next gen, PS6 and Xbox (insert bad name), dropping disc drives... I think going digital is the safest route from now on, and this $100 looks like a good deal. 


If PS5 discless is $100 less expensive i will go whit it.

Even in Brazil disc versions drop in price faster and also are cheaper on release if you buy on grey market. But yes if you go for those shared account games from mercadolivre you'll save even more. Still I collect games so that isn't a route for me.

And I was discussing USA sales, minimum Wage is like 6x ours and 100 change is less than 10% that minimum wage. In Brazil even this R$700,00 would make 70% of a minimum wage. But don't forget that at launch prices of playstation in Brazil is a lot higher than conversion rate and even plus taxes (like PS3 launching by R$6000,00 and PS4 being 4k) and also that you buy a lot cheaper at grey shops, but those won't see much money from discless so perhaps they won't bring those or will sell for similar price as the disc version. Remember that they weren't bringing X1 because the official price didn't make a big difference from the greyshop so people didn't want to abdicate from monthly payment and official warranty for a small saving.

Manlytears said:
RolStoppable said:

Retailers can sell all the things you mentioned to people who bought a PS5 with disc drive, on top of physical games.

If I understand you correctly, you suggest that used games were a bad thing for retailers, but the opposite is the case. The purchase and resale of used games is additional business for retailers.

if you talking about gamestop and other that deal whit used games, than you correct, they are losing here. But i think big names like Amazon and Best buy don't deal with used games ( i may be wrong, i live in brazil, things are different here).

That said, you don't need make every retailer happy, you just need to make the Largest to go along with you.

Amazon have a lot of used stuff sold there, not by them, but on their store and they get a cut from it. Best Buy I think they sell used, Walmart I remember seeing.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Mr.GameCrazy on 07 August 2020

I wonder when Sony will officially announce the price of the PS5 and the PS5 Digital Edition.



ArchangelMadzz on 07 August 2020
vivster said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Assuming the user bought enough games, then yeah.

Doesn't have to. It's an investment into the future of discless consoles. People accepting discless consoles alone will generate billions.

Billions for the industry, we're specifically talking about Sony here. Selling the physical PS5 for $499 is probably still a pretty big loss. The lack of disc drive probably saves them like $20 maximum. Adding a further $180 of losses just so they can invest into the future doesn't sound very smart to me.

$100 lower is still a bigger loss but that's covered by everything being on PSN. 



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Zombie9ers on 07 August 2020

Doesn't seem legit - probably placeholders. All accessories are the same price? Doesn't make sense.



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Otter on 07 August 2020
DonFerrari said:
Otter said:

I think most people are actually concerned about cashflow then they are about overall spend in a generation and that makes sense. Spending $10 extra here and there isn't going to hurt you, but $100 in one month goes a long way.

Well if 100 USD more is such a big problem for that person then better not really even expend the 400 already, but yes I know people think different and that is why it would make sense for Sony to offer a 100 cheaper version.

Manlytears said:

I wouldn't agree with that Logic otherwise people wouldn't spend on any expensive entertainment unless they were rich. Even people with big income will look for $100 savings if they can find it. $100 is an extra Christmas present, its that Winter Jacket or sneakers that I really want, its buying a train to visit my friend across the country, its an Extra game and controller at launch so the family can play together etc. 

 



DonFerrari on 07 August 2020
Otter said:
DonFerrari said:

Well if 100 USD more is such a big problem for that person then better not really even expend the 400 already, but yes I know people think different and that is why it would make sense for Sony to offer a 100 cheaper version.

I wouldn't agree with that Logic otherwise people wouldn't spend on any expensive entertainment unless they were rich. Even people with big income will look for $100 savings if they can find it. $100 is an extra Christmas present, its that Winter Jacket or sneakers that I really want, its buying a train to visit my friend across the country, its an Extra game and controller at launch so the family can play together etc.  

Changing the goalpost? The person would be expending more than that 100 USD because of the games being more expensive due to no used and lower pricedrops. You talked about cashflow and the difference of expending that 100 more now or several times 10 over the years.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

0D0 on 07 August 2020

Can't a hope for $450 standard?



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DonFerrari on 07 August 2020
0D0 said:
Can't a hope for $450 standard?

That would be over 50 loss on the standard console, and for they to keep a good distance to the discless that would be even more losses.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 10 August 2020
Ka-pi96 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Pretty much! Amazon, Bestbuy and Walmart do their E3 Pre-order sale where I can order yet to be released games at a discount. FFVIIR for example. I got around $50 during that sale compared to the usual $80 price at launch. Ik Ik, CAD sucks.

Hardly! I just bought a new game for ¥8500. That converts to around $100.

JPY sucks!

We pay 1/4 of minimum wage on a game, BRL sucks.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."