Forums - Sony Discussion - Leaked Price of PS5 - MAJOR GRAIN OF SALT

Manlytears said:
RolStoppable said:
Still don't understand why discless is expected to be $100 cheaper. What kind of price would retailers get from Sony in order to go ahead and stock a console that won't make customers buy from them again? Or is it expected that retailers will sacrifice their own business for the greater good of Sony?

I think big retailers like amazon and bestbuy will gladly stop selling dics and go whit Digital Codes. They can make deals whit publishers for cheaper codes or sell special/collector edition that come whit extras (figures, artbook, soundtrack, etc.) that you can't find on Digital store.

Things are only going to get better for than whit used games gone.

Retailers can sell all the things you mentioned to people who bought a PS5 with disc drive, on top of physical games.

If I understand you correctly, you suggest that used games were a bad thing for retailers, but the opposite is the case. The purchase and resale of used games is additional business for retailers.

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RolStoppable said:
Manlytears said:

I think big retailers like amazon and bestbuy will gladly stop selling dics and go whit Digital Codes. They can make deals whit publishers for cheaper codes or sell special/collector edition that come whit extras (figures, artbook, soundtrack, etc.) that you can't find on Digital store.

Things are only going to get better for than whit used games gone.

Retailers can sell all the things you mentioned to people who bought a PS5 with disc drive, on top of physical games.

If I understand you correctly, you suggest that used games were a bad thing for retailers, but the opposite is the case. The purchase and resale of used games is additional business for retailers.

if you talking about gamestop and other that deal whit used games, than you correct, they are losing here. But i think big names like Amazon and Best buy don't deal with used games ( i may be wrong, i live in brazil, things are different here).

That said, you don't need make every retailer happy, you just need to make the Largest to go along with you.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
vivster said:

Sony could sell the discless version for 200 less than the disc version and still make a profit.

Assuming the user bought enough games, then yeah.

Doesn't have to. It's an investment into the future of discless consoles. People accepting discless consoles alone will generate billions.



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I think we already had that info here.
Pay attention that every peripheral has the same price even as it looks under or over the price that should have.
Also your prediction was the PS5 would be $400, you didn't predict a Digital only edition for less and the PS5 for more, and if the PS5 is $500 you'll be using that LoD avatar as we agreed about xD



JWeinCom said:
Captain_Yuri said:
I would still probably get the disc version but that price point is pretty hype for digital

I feel like if you shop around and buy a lot of games, you'll wind up saving at least 100. To me an all digital console really only makes sense if you're going to use it exclusively for PSNow or Gamepass.

Maybe. But then you have guys like me. I love digital so much that I replaced all of my physical PS4 and Xbox One games (purchased 2015 and earlier) with digital versions. Not having to pay for a feature I don't want is awesome news. Much better than the PS3 which initially was packed with features that we paid for whether we wanted them or not.



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I bet Sony lets some of these price leaks happen just to then gauge the reaction and determine if they will be accepted prices. If enough people cause an uproar, they may lower it some. If people seem happy, maybe the next leak will cost more money and they start over with the study.



John2290 said:
How is that salt in the wound, The price is well below what could be expected and after the massive hit they are already taking here they are taking 60-80 on the disc drive. I was budgeting PCs and for me here in Ireland, P&P included with components from scratch I'm looking at 1500 for what is needed to just keep up with it and 1800 to have a slight edge for future proofing, I'm probably not great at finding components that are off brand but still, I can't imagine paying anything less than double and as long as that digital version is under 400 I'm satisfied, I hope these are true because i was getting very worried about prices and having to budget those release games and also the HD camera which will be needed for VR ontop of another years PS+ and things keep raking up. If these are the prices and stock is there I'll be in early 2021, hoping to get some discount on the january sales for the games but if it's any higher than this I'm waiting til next November.

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Otter said:
DonFerrari said:

Some people only look for the short time saving.

I think most people are actually concerned about cashflow then they are about overall spend in a generation and that makes sense. Spending $10 extra here and there isn't going to hurt you, but $100 in one month goes a long way.

Well if 100 USD more is such a big problem for that person then better not really even expend the 400 already, but yes I know people think different and that is why it would make sense for Sony to offer a 100 cheaper version.

Manlytears said:
DonFerrari said:

Some people only look for the short time saving.

Are you sure man? i mean, we are both from Brazil and $100 dollars cheaper Ps5 will be translated in over R$700 easy. Considering prices in Brazil, i think only people adept to used games market are going to see a return, and there is also the possibility of next gen, PS6 and Xbox (insert bad name), dropping disc drives... I think going digital is the safest route from now on, and this $100 looks like a good deal. 


If PS5 discless is $100 less expensive i will go whit it.

Even in Brazil disc versions drop in price faster and also are cheaper on release if you buy on grey market. But yes if you go for those shared account games from mercadolivre you'll save even more. Still I collect games so that isn't a route for me.

And I was discussing USA sales, minimum Wage is like 6x ours and 100 change is less than 10% that minimum wage. In Brazil even this R$700,00 would make 70% of a minimum wage. But don't forget that at launch prices of playstation in Brazil is a lot higher than conversion rate and even plus taxes (like PS3 launching by R$6000,00 and PS4 being 4k) and also that you buy a lot cheaper at grey shops, but those won't see much money from discless so perhaps they won't bring those or will sell for similar price as the disc version. Remember that they weren't bringing X1 because the official price didn't make a big difference from the greyshop so people didn't want to abdicate from monthly payment and official warranty for a small saving.

Manlytears said:
RolStoppable said:

Retailers can sell all the things you mentioned to people who bought a PS5 with disc drive, on top of physical games.

If I understand you correctly, you suggest that used games were a bad thing for retailers, but the opposite is the case. The purchase and resale of used games is additional business for retailers.

if you talking about gamestop and other that deal whit used games, than you correct, they are losing here. But i think big names like Amazon and Best buy don't deal with used games ( i may be wrong, i live in brazil, things are different here).

That said, you don't need make every retailer happy, you just need to make the Largest to go along with you.

Amazon have a lot of used stuff sold there, not by them, but on their store and they get a cut from it. Best Buy I think they sell used, Walmart I remember seeing.



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I wonder when Sony will officially announce the price of the PS5 and the PS5 Digital Edition.



vivster said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Assuming the user bought enough games, then yeah.

Doesn't have to. It's an investment into the future of discless consoles. People accepting discless consoles alone will generate billions.

Billions for the industry, we're specifically talking about Sony here. Selling the physical PS5 for $499 is probably still a pretty big loss. The lack of disc drive probably saves them like $20 maximum. Adding a further $180 of losses just so they can invest into the future doesn't sound very smart to me.

$100 lower is still a bigger loss but that's covered by everything being on PSN. 



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