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With Sony and MS releasing new hardware, will Switch be considered as 9th gen?

Yes 78 51.66%
 
No 73 48.34%
 
Total:151

It is amazing how people can come with so many arbitrary and pointless arguments to defend the idea if a new system is replacing an old one, somehow it will belong in the same old gen. People just can't get a grip to look for the definition of generation.

The thing is, if Wii U wasn't such a huge economical failure, Nintendo could be able to launch the switch a bit later and all confusion regarding the time that it was released would be gone.

Now if Switch is a home console or a handheld... I won't bother with this pointless discussion any longer, a gaming console is a gaming console, a gaming system is a gaming system and a gaming hardware is a gaming hardware no matter if it's stationary or a portable one. Period. 

Switch play as both bc it's Wii U and 3DS successor's so it's obvious that you have every characteristics out of box. Switch is the living proof of how is so baffling that you are still trying to force this separation on Box A and Box B when technology and design have already evolved past this.

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Rab said:
Why is this important?

easier to study time line...

History have this all over their subject. For example instead of studying the whole hominin timeline... they divided it to miocene, pliocene, pleistocene.... gaming industry is being studied and will just keep on expanding. By having a defined timeline, it would be easier for people who read gaming history based on separate timeline.



 

in what sense can it be 9th gen? there is going to be a difference of almost 4 years with Ps5 release date

it can considered as last gen or mid-gen



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DonFerrari said:

By the logic that PSP needed to use generic cables that weren't sold together (ignoring that the hw and fw itself supported it) then now that some smartphones are sold without charger then it must mean they have infinite battery right?

It can`t be any more obvious that Switch is a handheld first and with some tweaks to make it easier to play on the tv or share multiplayer.

Yet the hardware and firmware DO support TV-play, and that's the difference.

But you even notice how rediculus your argumentation becomes?

By that logic, you, as a living being, do not exist, because the sperm and the ovum you originated from werent put together right from the start.

As long as the manufaturer intends the product to have feature xy, it doesnt matter if the components are sold seperately or together.

Just question yourself... what would the psp be, if sony would have decided to put out a bundle with both psp + component cable together.

And right next to it, there would be the psp alone. But both use the cable for tv-play, whether it is included or not.



Current Gaming Systems

    Handheld   Home Console
Nintendo   Switch   Discontinued
Sony   Discontinued   PlayStation 4
Microsoft   None   XBox One
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GamingRabbit said:
DonFerrari said:

By the logic that PSP needed to use generic cables that weren't sold together (ignoring that the hw and fw itself supported it) then now that some smartphones are sold without charger then it must mean they have infinite battery right?

It can`t be any more obvious that Switch is a handheld first and with some tweaks to make it easier to play on the tv or share multiplayer.

Yet the hardware and firmware DO support TV-play, and that's the difference.

But you even notice how rediculus your argumentation becomes?

By that logic, you, as a living being, do not exist, because the sperm and the ovum you originated from werent put together right from the start.

As long as the manufaturer intends the product to have feature xy, it doesnt matter if the components are sold seperately or together.

Just question yourself... what would the psp be, if sony would have decided to put out a bundle with both psp + component cable together.

And right next to it, there would be the psp alone. But both use the cable for tv-play, whether it is included or not.

I guess you didn`t notice I was agreeing. The switch doesn`t become anymore home console than PSP because the dock is in the same box =p



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DonFerrari said:
GamingRabbit said:

Yet the hardware and firmware DO support TV-play, and that's the difference.

But you even notice how rediculus your argumentation becomes?

By that logic, you, as a living being, do not exist, because the sperm and the ovum you originated from werent put together right from the start.

As long as the manufaturer intends the product to have feature xy, it doesnt matter if the components are sold seperately or together.

Just question yourself... what would the psp be, if sony would have decided to put out a bundle with both psp + component cable together.

And right next to it, there would be the psp alone. But both use the cable for tv-play, whether it is included or not.

I guess you didn`t notice I was agreeing. The switch doesn`t become anymore home console than PSP because the dock is in the same box =p

No I didnt notice.

Sorry, my bad.

I apparently understood something different than what you were trying to say.

But yes Switch has never been a home console. And since it's not, its a handheld.

Because Hybrid = Handheld + Home Console.

Remove the home console and we get

Hybrid - Home Console = Handheld.

And this is important: because the switch is a handheld, it must be put in that time line.

If we consider Nintendo to be the one who really started the handheld business, we have the

GB(C), GBA (SP), NDS (i), 3ds/2ds and now the Switch, which means the Switch is Nintendos 5th gen Handheld, and neither 8th nor 9th gen HC



Current Gaming Systems

    Handheld   Home Console
Nintendo   Switch   Discontinued
Sony   Discontinued   PlayStation 4
Microsoft   None   XBox One
Shiken said:
Truthstation said:

8th generation

Wii U: 2012

PS4: 2013 

Xbox One: 2013

Mid-gen upgrades of 8th generation:

Switch: 2017

PS4 Slim / PS4 Pro: 2016

Xbox One S / Xbox One X: 2016/2017

Btw Wikipedia lists Switch as 8th generation too. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_generation_of_video_game_consoles

Switch is not a mid gen upgrade, but an entirely new device with its own library.  Your logic is flawed.

Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, and therefore is open to people who mistakenly call it gen 8 to state as much.  That does not make it fact.  The bigger factor is how long it competes with the PS5 and XSX.  If it stays on the market beyond 2023, there is no denying it as a 9th gen console with hybrid functions.  And with the way Switch is selling, don't expect a successor anytime soon.

Couple that with the fact that it replaced the actual gen 8 console, and it becomes all that more clear that Switch is part of gen 9.

By that scenario would dictate that the switch is a handheld. It is not affected by the current 8th gen consoles and wont be affected by the 9th gen either. Handhelds and consoles are on diferent cycles. 



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Is it running current 8th gen games?
Is it using 8th gen technology?
Is it competing against 8th gen consoles exclusively?
Sounds like an 8th gen duck to me.

It really depends if you think that Nintendo is still part of the greater gaming industry or if they're doing their own thing apart from everyone else. You cannot have it both ways so you choose.



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