Yet the hardware and firmware DO support TV-play, and that's the difference.

But you even notice how rediculus your argumentation becomes?

By that logic, you, as a living being, do not exist, because the sperm and the ovum you originated from werent put together right from the start.

As long as the manufaturer intends the product to have feature xy, it doesnt matter if the components are sold seperately or together.

Just question yourself... what would the psp be, if sony would have decided to put out a bundle with both psp + component cable together.

And right next to it, there would be the psp alone. But both use the cable for tv-play, whether it is included or not.

I guess you didn`t notice I was agreeing. The switch doesn`t become anymore home console than PSP because the dock is in the same box =p

You are absolutely right, it is a stupid question. About as stupid as thinking in gens across companies that have nothing to do with each other.

No I didnt notice.

Sorry, my bad.

I apparently understood something different than what you were trying to say.

But yes Switch has never been a home console. And since it's not, its a handheld.

Because Hybrid = Handheld + Home Console.

Remove the home console and we get

Hybrid - Home Console = Handheld.

And this is important: because the switch is a handheld, it must be put in that time line.

If we consider Nintendo to be the one who really started the handheld business, we have the

GB(C), GBA (SP), NDS (i), 3ds/2ds and now the Switch, which means the Switch is Nintendos 5th gen Handheld, and neither 8th nor 9th gen HC

By that scenario would dictate that the switch is a handheld. It is not affected by the current 8th gen consoles and wont be affected by the 9th gen either. Handhelds and consoles are on diferent cycles. 

Is it running current 8th gen games?
Is it using 8th gen technology?
Is it competing against 8th gen consoles exclusively?
Sounds like an 8th gen duck to me.

It really depends if you think that Nintendo is still part of the greater gaming industry or if they're doing their own thing apart from everyone else. You cannot have it both ways so you choose.

Seems pretty pointless to speak of generations now, but it will be selling during the ninth gen against the PS5 and XSX so yeah.

For me it is part of the 8th gen because of those aspects but still indirect competition (replacement product between it and PS/Xbox, doesn`t mater if primary or secondary system, but it doesn`t direct compete as there isn`t that many people that decides to skip PS/Xbox because of Switch and vice-versa, they were already decided on which side they preffered before hand).

To be honest though, the Atari 2600 and the Atari 5200 do not belong in the same generation.  And, at the time of the 5200's release, it was considered a 3rd generation console.  Advertising for the 5200 and Coleco's Colecovision clearly pronounced them as the first "Third Generation" systems.  I'm not sure exactly at what point someone decided to retroactively downgrade them in history.  But, it's probably because the North American Video Game Crash of 1983 was used to delineate the 82'-84' systems from the rise of the NES since they never directly competed with each other. 

Note this 1982 article from Electronic Games Magazine, whose title reads, "Third Wave Video Gaming Comes to Market" (referencing the ColecoVision and the 5200 as the start of the 3rd Generation):

Here's a comparison of Pac-Man on 2600 compared to the 5200 and Coleco Vision:

Here's Nintendo's Donkey Kong on the 2600 compared to the ColecoVision:

Edit - Fixed this sentence:  And, at the time of the 5200's release, it was not considered a 3rd generation console.

I actually didn't know that. It seems that the 5200 and ColecoVision were meant to be third generation, but history has not seen in that way. I don't think we'll ever get a consensus on whether Switch is eighth or ninth generation unless Nintendo says so. But with Atari, that would still mean they had two consoles in a generation even if you entertain that 5200 is third generation. Because there's no way you can argue Atari 7800 is fourth generation.