By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sales Discussion - Sony: The Last of Us Part II Sells More Than 4 Million Copies, Fastest Selling PS4 Exclusive

Tagged games:

Congrats Sony and Naughty Dog. This is people voting with their wallet that a good story is worth paying for.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

Around the Network

What's the chance we will see a first week update to sales?



Very expected since its coming off the first game and on a console with over 100m units sold. Ill be more interested in this games legs due to the negative feedback its getting from players.
4m in 3days is alot so congrats to Sony and ND.



SpokenTruth said:
Congrats Sony and Naughty Dog. This is people voting with their wallet that a good story is worth paying for.

Indeed its a great milestone, however i wouldn't say these people buying the game on its release are buying it for the story since they dont even know the story yet..



This situation might end up turning out like Avengers Endgame.  The movie was hugely successful the first week, so much that I thought it would smash Avatar's record.  In the end it had terrible legs, but it did very barely limp past Avatar.  Why were the legs bad?  Did people hate the movie?  No, people greatly praised how great it was.  The real reason it was front loaded was that people wanted to avoid spoilers, so they all saw it as fast as possible before they accidently found out too much on the internet.

I could see TLoU2 ending up in a similar situation.  There are spoilers everywhere right now about this game.  I personally know the main twist that happens near the beginning, even though I didn't go seeking out spoilers in any way.  Whether you love or hate this game, it is hard to deny that there are spoilers everywhere about it.  And I can see a very common reaction being, "I'm just going to play it and decide for myself."

So, I don't know if the sales will be front loaded or not, but I see this as a very likely scenario, even if people really like the game.  It's not a secret that the story is one of the main selling points, so people probably want to play ASAP before they get accidentally spoiled.



Around the Network
Intrinsic said:

So you care about the characters, at least enough to see what happens. The gameplay is great, as far as it being a thru person stealth action game.

But you will not pay money fr it because it rubs you the wrong way in a way that has nothing to do with the gameplay or presentation bt duet the kinda themes or the authentic, grotesque and even glamorized depiction of violence it embodies?

Hehe, I hope you know the reasons you hate that game, are the reasons it would end up going down in history as one of the best games ever made and ultimately become a cult classic. It means ND succeeded. 

Now if they really want to push that cult classic angle, they should never make a Part 3. Just make remasters/remakes of part 1 and two and call it a day.

I do have a problem with the themes, but not at all with the violence and its realistic depiction.

If a game as story-focused as TLoU2 spends many, many hours trying to teach me a lesson that i got after the first 20 minutes, it just becomes preachy and a bore-fest. I'm not through yet, but up until now, it is by far not as smart or controversial as it thinks it is.

There are many other big story reasons I don't like the game (yet - still being a bit hopeful for them to turn it around). But I can't get into those due to spoilers. Just rest assured that ND did not at all succeed on me. In general yes, many seem to like it, but not on me.

DonFerrari said:

Are you one of those masochists on VGC? People that say they bought a console and hate all the games on it, or that burn 20h of their life on something they are hating but think 60USD is just to much money? Well watching 4 seasons of an Anime that you are not liking is even more strange.

Hehe, yeah, I guess you are right, it is a bit masochistic. But don't you ever have this urge to see something through that you once loved? I want to emphazise that I loved TLoU1 and Attack on Titan 1. So they had their hooks in me.

I have even more examples: I read Don Quijote 2, even though it bored me, just because I loved part 1. I wanted to see what happens to him. I watched some marvel movies that I had no interest in, just because they are part of something bigger that I do have interest in.

Let's not be too black or white here. I don't really hate TLoU2, have not even seen it through. But I surely don't like it enough to warrant a purchase.



BraLoD said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

This trend has been going since 2009 IMO. so 11 years strong, don't see any sign of it stopping now.

2012, 2014 and 2019 were slow, but yeah, its almost always really strong.

Actually IMO it started in 2007 with:

Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction

MotorStorm

Warhawk

Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune

Heavenly Sward

God of War 2 (PS2)

2008 should be included in the slow/weak years with only Resistance 2 and LittleBigPlanet being the notable big releases.



JuliusHackebeil said:
Intrinsic said:

So you care about the characters, at least enough to see what happens. The gameplay is great, as far as it being a thru person stealth action game.

But you will not pay money fr it because it rubs you the wrong way in a way that has nothing to do with the gameplay or presentation bt duet the kinda themes or the authentic, grotesque and even glamorized depiction of violence it embodies?

Hehe, I hope you know the reasons you hate that game, are the reasons it would end up going down in history as one of the best games ever made and ultimately become a cult classic. It means ND succeeded. 

Now if they really want to push that cult classic angle, they should never make a Part 3. Just make remasters/remakes of part 1 and two and call it a day.

I do have a problem with the themes, but not at all with the violence and its realistic depiction.

If a game as story-focused as TLoU2 spends many, many hours trying to teach me a lesson that i got after the first 20 minutes, it just becomes preachy and a bore-fest. I'm not through yet, but up until now, it is by far not as smart or controversial as it thinks it is.

There are many other big story reasons I don't like the game (yet - still being a bit hopeful for them to turn it around). But I can't get into those due to spoilers. Just rest assured that ND did not at all succeed on me. In general yes, many seem to like it, but not on me.

DonFerrari said:

Are you one of those masochists on VGC? People that say they bought a console and hate all the games on it, or that burn 20h of their life on something they are hating but think 60USD is just to much money? Well watching 4 seasons of an Anime that you are not liking is even more strange.

Hehe, yeah, I guess you are right, it is a bit masochistic. But don't you ever have this urge to see something through that you once loved? I want to emphazise that I loved TLoU1 and Attack on Titan 1. So they had their hooks in me.

I have even more examples: I read Don Quijote 2, even though it bored me, just because I loved part 1. I wanted to see what happens to him. I watched some marvel movies that I had no interest in, just because they are part of something bigger that I do have interest in.

Let's not be too black or white here. I don't really hate TLoU2, have not even seen it through. But I surely don't like it enough to warrant a purchase.

I guess we see things differently. I didn't feel the game was preaching at all. Yes there is more LGBTQI+ representation than what you would find in average on real life, and Abby is quite dumb, and there are some parts where they talk about respecting this community and intolerance, but that is done very naturally and short.

I do follow some things that I loved but don't like as much to see how it end, but not hating, just liking it a tad less. When something just get tiring instead of enjoyable I quit.

For me a game that I would think is worthy 20h of my time seeing on YT (I hate seeing gameplay, just see short sessions of parts I have no idea what I need to do on the game) would be worthy purchasing, perhaps not full price but in that case I would also not be eager to watch on release as well.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Dahum said:
BraLoD said:

2012, 2014 and 2019 were slow, but yeah, its almost always really strong.

Actually IMO it started in 2007 with:

Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction

MotorStorm

Warhawk

Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune

Heavenly Sward

God of War 2 (PS2)

2008 should be included in the slow/weak years with only Resistance 2 and LittleBigPlanet being the notable big releases.

Well, most years since PS1 days will have great games, we had Gran Turismo selling 10-15 million since always, and great games all the time, if you go back to 2005 you have God of War and Shadow of the Collosus, for example. December 1999 Sony had The Legend of Dragoon and Gran Turismo 2, on a single month.

But I kinda agree that was in 2009 that Sony first party studios as a whole started a new era.

Because the PS3 was heavily underperforming for Sony expectations, and the 360 was taking so much market share to be as relevant as it was in the whole picture (destroying it on NA and being destroyed on EU and AS), Sony had to make a big move on several aspects of their strategy, and one of them was heavy investiments on first party games.

Then we got to 2009 and Uncharted 2 released and showed everybody what the fruits of that would start to give. Then we got God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, and so on, until The Last of Us, which was when the whole thing was clear for everybody, Sony was in another level now, to the point that even as the PS3 and 360 had similar numbers, everybody was just talking about Sony games by the end of the generation, crowned by The Last of Us.

After that Sony first party games image was consolidated and carried over to the next gen, which with the PS4 being very successful made them a bigger audience to sell for, and even as it was between PS1 and PS2 success, Sony first party games appeal, recognition and sales were like never, now it wasn't just Gran Turismo that could sell into the 10M territory, we got new IPs doing it, we got new a IP doing 20M actually, and even a 2nd party game smashed the 10M bar.

By the end of this gen Sony will have since 2009 at least 7 games from 6 different franchises have surpassed 10M (Gran Turismo 5, The Last of Us, Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Spider Man, The Last of Us Part 2 (as its very likely it will with 4M in 3 days)), compared to 3 games from the same franchise before (Gran Turismo 1, 3, 4). Worth noting that Gran Turismo sales actually declined after 2010, opposed to the trend of big increases of the other games.

So yeah, 2009 was kinda of a turning point for Sony first party games even as yes, if we go back we'll also find lots of amazing games, and actually some of my favorites, including my favorite, too.

Last edited by BraLoD - on 27 June 2020

BraLoD said:
Dahum said:

Actually IMO it started in 2007 with:

Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction

MotorStorm

Warhawk

Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune

Heavenly Sward

God of War 2 (PS2)

2008 should be included in the slow/weak years with only Resistance 2 and LittleBigPlanet being the notable big releases.

Well, most years since PS1 days will have great games, we had Gran Turismo selling 10-15 million since always, and great games all the time, if you go back to 2005 you have God of War and Shadow of the Collosus, for example. December 1999 Sony had The Legend of Dragoon and Gran Turismo 2, on a single month.

But I kinda agree that was in 2009 that Sony first party studios as a whole started a new era.

Because the PS3 was heavily underperforming for Sony expectations, and the 360 was taking so much market share to be as relevant as it was in the whole picture (destroying it on NA and being destroyed on EU and AS), Sony had to make a big move on several aspects of their strategy, and one of them was heavy investiments on first party games.

Then we got to 2009 and Uncharted 2 released and showed everybody what the fruits of that would start to give. Then we got God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, and so on, until The Last of Us, which was when the whole thing was clear for everybody, Sony was in another level now, to the point that even as the PS3 and 360 had similar numbers, everybody was just talking about Sony games by the end of the generation, crowned by The Last of Us.

After that Sony first party games image was consolidated and carried over to the next gen, which with the PS4 being very successful made them a bigger audience to sell for, and even as it was between PS1 and PS2 success, Sony first party games appeal, recognition and sales were like never, now it wasn't just Gran Turismo that could sell into the 10M territory, we got new IPs doing it, we got new a IP doing 20M actually, and even a 2nd party game smashed the 10M bar.

By the end of this gen Sony will have since 2009 at least 7 games from 6 different franchises have surpassed 10M (Gran Turismo 5, The Last of Us, Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Spider Man, The Last of Us Part 2 (as its very likely it will with 4M in 3 days)), compared to 3 games from the same franchise before (Gran Turismo 1, 3, 4). Worth noting that Gran Turismo sales actually declined after 2010, opposed to the trend of big increases of the other games.

So yeah, 2009 was kinda of a turning point for Sony first party games even as yes, if we go back we'll also find lots of amazing games, and actually some of my favorites, including my favorite, too.

Loved everything you said and yes i agree wholeheartedly now with what you stated! 2009 was indeed the year the shift truly happened with 1st party games and sony exclusives starting with U2.

I completely remember as I bought my PS3 in September 2009 and remember the hype for U2 was for the first time on a whole other level compared to games that came before it! And people were talking about it with amazement and shock and that trend was supported strongly with Heavy Rain and GOW3 following up back to back becoming the trinity and foundation that kickstarted the Sony exclusives renaissance era.