Dude, what exactly are the "woke talking points" you're referring to? I'm more than 10 hours into this game so far and am finding it deeply, deeply centrist politically. (Feel free to use the spoiler tags.) Somebody needs to actually answer this question concretely for me with something other than "there are lesbians" for me to buy it.

I have avoided all spoilers so I cannot confirm this yet (still playing and enjoying the game), but I think the biggest controversial point seems to be from the leaks (since a lot of people bombing it have not even played the game).  I also gather that it has to do with the end of the game.

But again, I cannot confirm at this time.  I would rather enjoy a good game and have it ruined at the end, than tarnish my experience now by spoiling it.  Or conversely, get to the end and find out that the entire thing is overblown and taken out of context without knowing exactly what goes down during Ellie's travels.  Like they are missing a piece of the puzzle.

Like I said, I will judge for myself when I finish the game.  I worked hard to go in blind on this one.

1.The title.

2.What I said is correct, right?

The 1st game got price cut then being give away for free many times after 3-4 years. Are you saying that TLOU 2 could still sell millions at full $60 after 4 years?

Ok, if you say so.

Sorry, how exactly is putting "beating Animal Crossing" in the title, any more relevant than mentioning AC will still outsell TLoUII with a $60 pricetag for several years?

This thread is in Sony Discussion and Animal Crossing is not a Sony game. If it's the biggest launch in UK then there's no need to mention any other game, as it's already a given they'd be lower. So what's the merit of mentioning it in the title?

The article you linked says "Outsells Animal Crossing: New Horizons by 40% - Sales". That's relevant info because it gives us an actual basis for overall sales, rather than just mentioning "beat Animal Crossing".

The tweet from OP also mentioned "bigger than the Uncharted 4 launch in boxed sales alone", "and comfortably bigger than its predecessor", but neither of those were necessary for the thread title.

I still don't see it. Just seems arbitrary at best.

Never understood why people think its a good thing nintendo games almost never drop in price,its so anti consumer.

Why pay more if ya can pay less.

Never understood the " yes it sold 20mill but not at 60$"

Most games cant even sell a 1mill.

What makes me somewhat sad, is the fact that the staff treatment and the crunch will all likely be completely ignored after this. It doesn't matter what goes on in those people's lives, just as long as the game is good (which is the gist I get from pure focus on the game selling as well as it is right now).

I feel like bringing up game crunch and staff treatment is something pointless to mention within the gaming communities, because they'll only be mired by it for a few weeks/months, them forget when said game finally releases. At least around the world, we have causes being fought for, and not forgotten as fast as issues that currently permeate within the games industry. 

Man, the length some people are willing to go to downplay the success of this game is amazing. Just face it, only a small online minority made a fuss about the "questionable content" (whatever that means) of the game and now every negative prediction that was made fell flat on its face. The game is a huge critical darling and sales are there to back it up

OT: amazing debute. I am getting close to the end of the game, and oh my it's a masterpiece... Deserved every single copy and then some