The sticking point for me is that this buff part of her does not look female and there are existing buffer females than Abby that are more female looking,more realistically.

But not that i care a lot about this,it would just be nice that they did a tiny bit more research in how to better represent this character,i know this is about a fictonal future but one that does have more closely realistically fragile human beings compared to other franchises.

Of course, of course. My argument is simply that it isn't a realistically attainable physique without some extra aid, given her height. That's literally it. A lot of people have misconceptions about how muscle is built, especially on tall frames, whether you're male or female. Of course, there are exaggerations in games and movies, and most brawny Hollywood actors are juicing left and right to attain their physiques. Whether or not the game itself is trying to be realistic is kind of beside the point if someone argues that building a whole lot of mass on a female upper body without chemical aid is realistic.

I have no problem with it what so ever, I don't find it weird, unsettling or traumatizing, I just tried to dispel some myths about the human body and its capabilities. No big deal, to me anyway.

@Immersiveunreality: I wouldn't say that her chest looks manly necessarily, when the female torso loses fat the chest tends to take on a flatter and more muscular look naturally. A female pectoral muscle will look like male ones underneath the skin, they just lack the same average volume and are usually covered in more bodyfat on average. Look at most gymnasts, for instance, they usually have low bodyfat and have pretty square physiques overall, but I hardly think they look manly. Abby reminds me of gymnasts, only she's way too tall for that. Or perhaps more like a competitive swimmer.

I know,i did watch most of the story but as a character it is not a relatable for myself because i'm too annoyed with how unrealistic she is,and that can be a tiny problem for a character that is playable.

But bodystructure is the least of the problems i have with the story and chars,and please i hope none takes offense to my opinion.

A missing gym would be the least of problems.

Yes i know but girls that do bodybuilding and have a manly upperbody like Abby are like 1 out of 100 maybe even rarer,mostly they still have female shaped breast on top of the musles and surely when the body has the fatpercentage abby has.

I'm not reading this thread at this time (I want to get done with the game first), but just to tag the thread and also to give a comment about politics in games, I think what's going on with games in general is the same that's going on with all pop culture, particularly Hollywood: the annoying need to lecture the audience.

Watch the third season of Designated Survivor on Netflix to get what I'm talking about. It's an example of a "lecture show" and it feels to me that the whole pop industry is going this way either more or less extreme.

It's not about being left-wing or right-wing, it's about those writers and directors thinking that everyone is an imbecile that needs to learn from their work what's right and wrong all the time. It feels like communistic propaganda: it's artificial, it's boring, it's even repressive somehow.

I hate that shit as well, but I never felt that with this game. Never felt lectured to in any way. Here you kill people of all genders, race and sexuality. Its like an all inclusive bloodbath.

Yep, one of the reasons I stopped watching designated surviver. Its so straight up to my face that yeah, its like one of those king jon un propaganda videos. And its always one sided.

I just finished the game and I'm pretty lost as to why the game is political. Is it because there is a lesbian couple, an ethnically diverse cast, and a muscular woman? I don't see how that's political. I'm not baiting anyone, I'm genuinely curious if that's what it boils down to.

yeah, that's basically it. and to 'some people', that's an affront to their comfortable existence and find it offensive. However, people know that it's not okay to say 'the existence of lesbian/diverse/butch characters is offensive', so they wiggle around to find other excuses to hate things that have these characters. 

Oftentimes, the people don't even realize they're doing it.