You think that girl is clean? The video more or less proves his point, it's extremely hard for women to build significant mass in the upper body, especially shoulders and arms. I know a couple of dozen girls who look more or less like that, none of which have gone without chemical aid. Female powerlifters usually have great squat and deadlift numbers, but comparatively low benchpress numbers, this is due to the mentioned discrepancy in muscle mass of the upper body and bench not getting the same direct benefit from strong legs (besides the grounding when you arch). Heavier division lifters tend to be large overall, with a much greater percentage of body fat, as females are more prone to both gaining and retaining fat naturally. A large, muscular upper body with low fat and good vascularity is nigh on impossible, even most men have problems accomplishing this.

Edit; for further example, look at the differences in female lifters in the IPF, and then the WPC (the latter group is not tested, and it shows) and their overall body composition, especially the lower weight classes.

It would also provide a target for the twitter-PC-brigade.

"ND implies women can only have gains by cheating"

#NaughtyDogHatesWomen

In games like God Of War, Diablo etc. this would be a non issue. But ND themselves set a bar for authenticity and realism.

Either Abby is transexual or she used steroids. Lots of steroids. It isn't possible for a female to gain this massive muscles at that age under these conditions. 

More baffling is the fact that someone at Naughty Dog saw it necessary to increase the orignal models body mass.

Compare reveal trailer to sex scene. 

In my opinion it wasn't necessary at all. Her original model was already strong and very athletic. I believe Neil did that because he wanted to create a discussion "is she trans or not?". The sex scene for me is very, very indicative of it. Her father was the greatest genius at that era, able to create a vaccine for a fungus. He could probably be able to tell where it was possible to find hormones in abandoned hospitals or whatever.

In my opinion it wasn't necessary at all. Her original model was already strong and very athletic. I believe Neil did that because he wanted to create a discussion "is she trans or not?". The sex scene for me is very, very indicative of it. Her father was the greatest genius at that era, able to create a vaccine for a fungus. He could probably be able to tell where it was possible to find hormones in abandoned hospitals or whatever.

The sticking point for me is that this buff part of her does not look female and there are existing buffer females than Abby that are more female looking,more realistically.

But not that i care a lot about this,it would just be nice that they did a tiny bit more research in how to better represent this character,i know this is about a fictonal future but one that does have more closely realistically fragile human beings compared to other franchises.

Yes i know but girls that do bodybuilding and have a manly upperbody like Abby are like 1 out of 100 maybe even rarer,mostly they still have female shaped breast on top of the musles and surely when the body has the fatpercentage abby has.

You've brought up some interesting points before that may need to be addressed here. Such as if it's possible to have a proper dialogue if people are ok with accusing others of being 'sjw with a political agenda' but not being bigots for the exact same reason.

That said, when you make it sound like you are calling out someone specific in this thread for something, it's better if you specify who you're talking about, while being mindful of how you address them.
You can refer to your earlier mixup of Don and Enrico as an example of why being specific helps. Or how Mummelman, whom you seemingly referred to with the last paragraph there, doesn't think you characterized what he said properly.

Well, there are also a lot of normally built women in our world who people would say don't look particularly female. Even when just considering the face.
That's actually fairly normal I'd say. Especially when they don't wear makeup. 
Though Mummelman seems to be saying that this is a realistic look for a woman in that position. He's just questioning how she got there.

And regarding the research, I don't imagine most people have the same level of insight into female bodybuilding as Mummelman seems to have. If you did, where did you learn of it? Though I think he pointed out that there are women that can look as buff or buffer than Abby, but he claims they need to take extra substances. I don't know how true that statement is, but based on what I've played, it doesn't seem unreasonable that Abby did something like that.

Well think of it this way.
The game is literally about a girl that has a 1 in several billion rare body, with the only known immunity to a global pandemic.
I don't think people where particularly upset with how rare Ellie's body is.
The height of the reactions were basically 'another rare immunity trope', but that didn't seem to ruin people's enjoyment.

Yes but immunity in itself is more common or relatable for everyone,i question Abby her upper body build more as some form of censoring by Naugthy Dog or Sony and if it is really done for that purpose then it feels hypocritical but i hope i'm wrong.

I see it as no big deal really but just interesting to think about,Abby on herself is not the baddest of characters but the pacing and writing and how the flashbacks are set up do not really support her enough imo.

Also her motivation is not backed up enough,even Ellie is suddenly out of character a few times when she brutally slaughters.

I like Nora and Mel more than the other cast that should have been more important.

I don't understand the bolded part. What is ND/Sony censoring by giving Abby a buff build?