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DonFerrari said:

For me it was second party just as Ratchet & Clank and several other titles from Insomniac, but yes they were almost first party studio since majority of their titles (and from what I know all their good selling ones) were exclusives to Sony and Sony owned the IPs.

There are no Second party games. Only first and third party. 



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TheMisterManGuy said:
imparanoic said:

Street Fighter V -  console exclusive 
Final Fantasy VII Remake, - console exclusive

I believe the op emphasising console exclusivity and not including PC, but i could be wrong, there are quite a few, persona 5 royal, Guilty Gear Strive, fist of the north star; lost paradise, Noih 2, spiderman (released in 2018, still independent, 2019 brought out by sony), sukura wars  yakuza 6, matterfall, nex fall, alienation, resogun.

Spider-Man and Resogun are first party BTW. But yes, I am including Console exclusivity in this. 

Spiderman was released in 2018, the delevopers were still third party, they even released sunset overide on xbox one as an exclusive as well as song of the deep for ps4 and xbox one in 2016, but they were purchased by sony in 2019 and became  first party

Resogun is third party, the developers is housemarque, not owned by sony



TheMisterManGuy said:
DonFerrari said:

For me it was second party just as Ratchet & Clank and several other titles from Insomniac, but yes they were almost first party studio since majority of their titles (and from what I know all their good selling ones) were exclusives to Sony and Sony owned the IPs.

There are no Second party games. Only first and third party. 

Where I gone to school two was between 1 and 3.



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okr said:
TheMisterManGuy said:

Whether you feel they're a good thing or not isn't the point. They'll never truly go away so long as money talks.

Wow, so you think it‘s a good thing that Sony is paying Square-Enix, Atlus and others for exclusivity?

I wouldn't assume all exclusivity equates to money hatting (I.e persona) although you have obvious cases like FFVIIR and recently on Xbox Phantasy Star Online 2. But sometimes developers see their audience primarily on one system so are not interested in developing multiplat which does cost more money and effort.

OP: Unless developers are making unique use of Playstation hardware there is no need for 3rd party exclusives. We will still see Japanese ones, not from money hatting but from a presumed pack of interest on Xbox side. Indie games which need help funding are an exception



I still remember all the backlash MS took for moneyhatting Tomb Raider. Funny how it's basically non-existent when Sony continuously does it over and over.



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3rd party exclusives is matter of deal , xbox can do to and Nintendo also can do the same.

Hell even Stadia can do the same. But don't expect to be fully exclusives . Also Sony already has a lot of brand recognition , no need to poach developer and publisher. But exclusives content might still exist and time exclusives will still exist. Perhaps it will not be games exclusives but more of one games will look particular better on one platform than the rest (PS5 faster IO/SSD) will result of fast travel, flying mechanic, high quality polygon, no pop up on open world environment.



imparanoic said:
TheMisterManGuy said:

Spider-Man and Resogun are first party BTW. But yes, I am including Console exclusivity in this. 

Spiderman was released in 2018, the delevopers were still third party, they even released sunset overide on xbox one as an exclusive as well as song of the deep for ps4 and xbox one in 2016, but they were purchased by sony in 2019 and became  first party

Resogun is third party, the developers is housemarque, not owned by sony

Sony published both titles though, so they're first party. 



NobleTeam360 said:
I still remember all the backlash MS took for moneyhatting Tomb Raider. Funny how it's basically non-existent when Sony continuously does it over and over.

I also remember when they secured the 2nd game in a trilogy as 'exclusive' even after the PS3 version of the 1st game outsold the 360 version, and the remaster on PS4 outsold the X1 version.

That;s why there was such a backlash, the IP and major audience were not with MS.



twintail said:
NobleTeam360 said:
I still remember all the backlash MS took for moneyhatting Tomb Raider. Funny how it's basically non-existent when Sony continuously does it over and over.

I also remember when they secured the 2nd game in a trilogy as 'exclusive' even after the PS3 version of the 1st game outsold the 360 version, and the remaster on PS4 outsold the X1 version.

That;s why there was such a backlash, the IP and major audience were not with MS.

That's probably why Dead Rising 3 received a lot less backlash when Microsoft nabbed that. At least DR got its start on Xbox. 



TheMisterManGuy said:
imparanoic said:

Spiderman was released in 2018, the delevopers were still third party, they even released sunset overide on xbox one as an exclusive as well as song of the deep for ps4 and xbox one in 2016, but they were purchased by sony in 2019 and became  first party

Resogun is third party, the developers is housemarque, not owned by sony

Sony published both titles though, so they're first party. 

the term says all, third party developer, never mentioned anything about publishing, kojima productions, same again, totally independent developer