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If the Switch Resident Evil game ends up also doing well, do you think Resident Evil IX will be exclusive to the PlayStation ? Especially since from the Capcom leaks that they've been trying to port all their Resident Evil games to the Switch, the Pro might make this a reality and in the future Resident Evil might become a multiplat title for them, same goes for MH World 2, this leads to fewer reasons for Japanese audience to buy a PS5.

Overall there are hundreds of Japanese titles launched each year and only a handful of them are AAA. For AA & indie efforts that are more popular in Asia Switch might be the leading platform. When you aren't guaranteed even 10K sales on the PS5 in Japan for these types of games a PS5 version might not actually make financial sense. After all Resident Evil is a major franchise and it's currently struggling to sell 100K on the PS5 you have to wonder about any studio without the financial capabilities of Square, Capcom & Bandai.

Last edited by noshten - on 30 May 2021

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noshten said:

If the Switch Resident Evil game ends up also doing well, do you think Resident Evil IX will be exclusive to the PlayStation ? Especially since from the Capcom leaks that they've been trying to port all their Resident Evil games to the Switch, the Pro might make this a reality and in the future Resident Evil might become a multiplat title for them, same goes for MH World 2, this leads to fewer reasons for Japanese audience to buy a PS5.

Overall there are hundreds of Japanese titles launched each year and only a handful of them are AAA. For AA & indie efforts that are more popular in Asia Switch might be the leading platform. When you aren't guaranteed even 10K sales on the PS5 in Japan for these types of games a PS5 version might not actually make financial sense. After all Resident Evil is a major franchise and it's currently struggling to sell 100K on the PS5 you have to wonder about any studio without the financial capabilities of Square, Capcom & Bandai.

Yes, any game that the porting from Switch to PS5 doesn't cover the cost plus some reasonable profit probably won't show on PS5 and well that won't really impact the HW sales.

And well when you look at the numbers there is good reason Japan isn't the focus for Sony.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Considering that without Japan, Sony sold 105+ Million units of PS4’s and more than 1.4 BILLION games, it’s clear that their focus is not Japan anymore.

They may say that they are trying for, but that ship sailed long time ago with the PS2.

Last edited by kazuyamishima - on 31 May 2021

kazuyamishima said:

Considering that without Japan, Sony sold 105+ Million units of PS4’s and more than 1.4 BILLION games, it’s clear that their focus is not Japan anymore.

They may say that they are trying for that ship sailed long time ago with the PS2.

The trying in Japan is to keep the big devs in Japan in the system and selling ww. Also keep being a friendly platform to Indies and small devs over there but not really going the extra mile to pander for them.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

kazuyamishima said:

Considering that without Japan, Sony sold 105+ Million units of PS4’s and more than 1.4 BILLION games, it’s clear that their focus is not Japan anymore.

They may say that they are trying for that ship sailed long time ago with the PS2.

Japanese market it's not only the Japanese market.

Sony has an ok run there with Ps4 because all third-party AAA/AA is on Ps4,  and 3ds ( japan only) and WiiU( biggest mainline Nintendo flop) don't represent much competition. Now we have the Switch dominance and the loss of a big chunk of AA production, and some unusual comeback (Konami). The second biggest market has an influence on all East Asia markets. Look at Taiwan and South Korea tracks now... resembles the Japanese market( South Korea is a Nintendo more version of this). Continental China Nintendo has more than 4 million sales there.

I believe Sony will grow in India. but lose some chunks of East Asia. 



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Square will keep Sony relevant in Japan, also most big Japanese games/franchises tend to get released on PS5/Xbox/PC, or as PS5/PC exclusive like Devil May Cry, mainline Final Fantasy games, mainline Resident Evil games and others. But 10 million units is probably the ceiling for a Sony Console in Japan nowadays. But Europe and USA make up for that by a lot.



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Qwark said:

Square will keep Sony relevant in Japan, also most big Japanese games/franchises tend to get released on PS5/Xbox/PC, or as PS5/PC exclusive like Devil May Cry, mainline Final Fantasy games, mainline Resident Evil games and others. But 10 million units is probably the ceiling for a Sony Console in Japan nowadays. But Europe and USA make up for that by a lot.

Nowadays even RotW kinda dwarf Japan.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Qwark said:

Square will keep Sony relevant in Japan, also most big Japanese games/franchises tend to get released on PS5/Xbox/PC, or as PS5/PC exclusive like Devil May Cry, mainline Final Fantasy games, mainline Resident Evil games and others. But 10 million units is probably the ceiling for a Sony Console in Japan nowadays. But Europe and USA make up for that by a lot.

Nowadays even RotW kinda dwarf Japan.

20 million PS4’s against 9.4 millions in Japan can conform it.



kazuyamishima said:
DonFerrari said:

Nowadays even RotW kinda dwarf Japan.

20 million PS4’s against 9.4 millions in Japan can conform it.

I'd say it would be better to add all consoles in a gen together and check the numbers then, as this could be very skewed otherwise.

FYI, even the PS2 sold more RotW than in Japan, as did the PS3. Playstation consoles selling well in RotW are nothing new, though the gap between Japan and RotW has been rising with the PS4 for sure.

For Xbox, it's easy, RotW wins. It's Japan sales are so abysmal it's actually hard not to beat them.

On the Nintendo side of things, in the past, Nintendo never managed to make big strides into the RotW markets. Right now, the DS is the best-selling Nintendo console in the RotW, and with 12.43M, it is far behind the bestselling consoles in that region and far behind it's sales in Japan.

But now with the Switch, they're selling there big time. Switch is only 1M behind the DS and PS3 here anymore, which should be gobbled up during this summer. From there, only the top 3 consoles are left to beat in that region, which are PSP, PS4 and finally PS2, in that order. And while the PS2 might be too much, beating the other 2 Sony consoles should be very possible

With Nintendo finally selling well in RotW, I'd say that yes, now it has surpassed Japan. But before that, I would argue that it wasn't the case yet, and it's only really the case since 2020, where Nintendo's sales in that region really took off and outsold the 3 previous years combined.



UnderwaterFunktown said:
vonny said:

The Switch wont even match the 3DS sales in Japan(most likely) and it will never reach DS or gameboy numbers, handheld market in Japan shrinking isn't a myth it's a fact.  

We'll see about that. I certainly expect the Switch to outsell 3DS and then some. It's around 2 mil behind in Japan launch aligned, but while the 3DS had already peaked at that point, Switch sales are still on rise.

Ofc the handheld market will never again reach anything as ridicolous as the seventh gen with 33 mil DS's + 20 mil PSPs but that was a wholly unique case. The 3DS + Vita did almost as much as the Gameboy and that was stretched over 2 gens.

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Totally agree, I think it's got a good chance to beat DS also, keeping in mind the variance in price between both machines