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GProgrammer said:
noshten said:

Thanks to Media Create Top 1000 for Japan and South Korea/Taiwan data which we got thanks to Chris, we can see that the overall software situation in Asia for the PS5 is far from rosy at the moment

Those are terrible numbers for South Korea and Taiwan with all platforms including the Switch.

All top 1000 titles together in South Korea for the whole year sell less than eg the latest COD game sells in the USA on just its opening day.

Wow!!!! I knew they didn't really buy Consoles but didn't think it was that bad, they still really are just PC & Mobile

The fact that PC & Mobile market is so large in South East Asia is a huge opportunity for Switch actually,

That's why the region as a whole is the fastest growing according to Nintendo. In the past East Asia didn't represent such a large part of Nintendo's growth, compare that to the past two years years especially after Switch officially launched in China in December 2019. In the last QA Shuntaro Furukawa pretty much underlined it that it's biggest growth region. 

"By region, significant sales growth is continuing in Asia, and we believe there is still room for sufficient growth of new demand in Europe and the United States, considering the sizes of those populations."

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210507e.pdf

The overall growth was 65% for hardware & 66% in terms software for Other(Asia/Oceania/Africa)

From Media-Create the hardware sales South Korea saw 97% hardware growth & 70% physical software growth Year over Year, while Taiwan saw 68% hardware growth & 14% software growth. If growth continues strongly just these two markets would become as large as France is currently for Nintendo in terms of hardware sales. Combine China, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan etc. it's possible that in a couple of years Asia might overtake Europe 

Last edited by noshten - on 06 June 2021

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noshten said:
GProgrammer said:

Those are terrible numbers for South Korea and Taiwan with all platforms including the Switch.

All top 1000 titles together in South Korea for the whole year sell less than eg the latest COD game sells in the USA on just its opening day.

Wow!!!! I knew they didn't really buy Consoles but didn't think it was that bad, they still really are just PC & Mobile

The fact that PC & Mobile market is so large in South East Asia is a huge opportunity for Switch actually,

That's why the region as a whole is the fastest growing according to Nintendo. In the past East Asia didn't represent such a large part of Nintendo's growth, compare that to the past two years years especially after Switch officially launched in China in December 2019. In the last QA Shuntaro Furukawa pretty much underlined it that it's biggest growth region. 

"By region, significant sales growth is continuing in Asia, and we believe there is still room for sufficient growth of new demand in Europe and the United States, considering the sizes of those populations."

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210507e.pdf

The overall growth was 65% for hardware & 66% in terms software for Other(Asia/Oceania/Africa)

From Media-Create the hardware sales South Korea saw 97% hardware growth & 70% physical software growth Year over Year, while Taiwan saw 68% hardware growth & 14% software growth. If growth continues strongly just these two markets would become as large as France is currently for Nintendo in terms of hardware sales. Combine China, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan etc. it's possible that in a couple of years Asia might overtake Europe 

Your and mine theory: sony will lose East Asia for Nintendo, maybe will be concrete sooner than I thought. Maybe the China hero project will resist more, but China`s Nintendo performance it's great. 



Agente42 said:
noshten said:

The fact that PC & Mobile market is so large in South East Asia is a huge opportunity for Switch actually,

That's why the region as a whole is the fastest growing according to Nintendo. In the past East Asia didn't represent such a large part of Nintendo's growth, compare that to the past two years years especially after Switch officially launched in China in December 2019. In the last QA Shuntaro Furukawa pretty much underlined it that it's biggest growth region. 

"By region, significant sales growth is continuing in Asia, and we believe there is still room for sufficient growth of new demand in Europe and the United States, considering the sizes of those populations."

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210507e.pdf

The overall growth was 65% for hardware & 66% in terms software for Other(Asia/Oceania/Africa)

From Media-Create the hardware sales South Korea saw 97% hardware growth & 70% physical software growth Year over Year, while Taiwan saw 68% hardware growth & 14% software growth. If growth continues strongly just these two markets would become as large as France is currently for Nintendo in terms of hardware sales. Combine China, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan etc. it's possible that in a couple of years Asia might overtake Europe 

Your and mine theory: sony will lose East Asia for Nintendo, maybe will be concrete sooner than I thought. Maybe the China hero project will resist more, but China`s Nintendo performance it's great. 

Nonsense.

PS4 showed massive growth in Asia (bar Japan) and PS5 is only going to increase that userbase. Playstation is unrivalled in Asia in playing AAA console games from around the world, and the audience for such games is only continuing to grow in China, South Korea and Taiwan.

Japan's decline is also miniscule. PS3: 10.2 million, PS4 9.5 million (and this is with Sony not doing further price cuts). PS5 is actually outpacing PS4 in Japan. Another easy 9-10 million while Xbox struggles to do 100k.



src said:
Agente42 said:

Your and mine theory: sony will lose East Asia for Nintendo, maybe will be concrete sooner than I thought. Maybe the China hero project will resist more, but China`s Nintendo performance it's great. 

Nonsense.

PS4 showed massive growth in Asia (bar Japan) and PS5 is only going to increase that userbase. Playstation is unrivalled in Asia in playing AAA console games from around the world, and the audience for such games is only continuing to grow in China, South Korea and Taiwan.

Japan's decline is also miniscule. PS3: 10.2 million, PS4 9.5 million (and this is with Sony not doing further price cuts). PS5 is actually outpacing PS4 in Japan. Another easy 9-10 million while Xbox struggles to do 100k.

Playstation was unrivaled in Asia and RoW in general. But with the Switch, Nintendo has kicked Sony from the throne in an increasing amount of countries. Switch has sold over 5M in the RoW last year, which is way above anything any Playstation managed to sell in the RoW in a single year ever. And the Switch sales are up compared to last year, meaning this trend isn't about to stop.

If you look at the platform sales in the RoW, Sony has reigned supreme in the past. The bestselling ones are all Playstation consoles, with PS2, PS4, PSP, and PS3, in that order, on the top 4 spots. Number 5 is the DS, but the Switch is already just behind and will pass the DS this summer, and also the PS3, which is barely in front of the DS. The PSP could fall this holiday season, and in 2022 or 2023 it will surpass the PS4 even with slowing sales in that region. This just shows that Nintendo has finally understood and is conquering the RoW market, and most notable for this change here is the Asian market.

As for Japan's decline, it's not minuscule. Considering that the PS4 sold almost 50% more than the PS3, having any amount of decline is a disaster in itself. With how popular the PS4 was, it should have gone up a lot, yet it still was down. And no, another price cut wouldn't have added enough sales to break even with the PS3, let alone change the sales trend and trajectory in Japan.

The PS5 is outpacing the PS4, that's true, but that was also a very low bar to pass. I mean, the commercial failure that is the Wii U sold better launch-aligned in Japan than the PS4 - and would still lead the PS5 by that metric. It doesn't have the sales decline the PS4 had, so it can have a genuine increase. But for that, it will need more support from Japanese developers bringing unique Japanese titles, as these are still pretty rare on the radar of PS5 releases. But the chances are there for the PS5 to change the trend in Japan, Sony just needs to grab them.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 14 June 2021

src said:
Agente42 said:

Your and mine theory: sony will lose East Asia for Nintendo, maybe will be concrete sooner than I thought. Maybe the China hero project will resist more, but China`s Nintendo performance it's great. 

Nonsense.

PS4 showed massive growth in Asia (bar Japan) and PS5 is only going to increase that userbase. Playstation is unrivalled in Asia in playing AAA console games from around the world, and the audience for such games is only continuing to grow in China, South Korea and Taiwan.

Japan's decline is also miniscule. PS3: 10.2 million, PS4 9.5 million (and this is with Sony not doing further price cuts). PS5 is actually outpacing PS4 in Japan. Another easy 9-10 million while Xbox struggles to do 100k.

Nonsense. Why? South Korea, China, and Taiwan show this.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
src said:

Nonsense.

PS4 showed massive growth in Asia (bar Japan) and PS5 is only going to increase that userbase. Playstation is unrivalled in Asia in playing AAA console games from around the world, and the audience for such games is only continuing to grow in China, South Korea and Taiwan.

Japan's decline is also miniscule. PS3: 10.2 million, PS4 9.5 million (and this is with Sony not doing further price cuts). PS5 is actually outpacing PS4 in Japan. Another easy 9-10 million while Xbox struggles to do 100k.

Playstation was unrivaled in Asia and RoW in general. But with the Switch, Nintendo has kicked Sony from the throne in an increasing amount of countries. Switch has sold over 5M in the RoW last year, which is way above anything any Playstation managed to sell in the RoW in a single year ever. And the Switch sales are up compared to last year, meaning this trend isn't about to stop.

If you look at the platform sales in the RoW, Sony has reigned supreme in the past. The bestselling ones are all Playstation consoles, with PS2, PS4, PSP, and PS3, in that order, on the top 4 spots. Number 5 is the DS, but the Switch is already just behind and will pass the DS this summer, and also the PS3, which is barely in front of the DS. The PSP could fall this holiday season, and in 2022 or 2023 it will surpass the PS4 even with slowing sales in that region. This just shows that Nintendo has finally understood and is conquering the RoW market, and most notable for this change here is the Asian market.

As for Japan's decline, it's not minuscule. Considering that the PS4 sold almost 50% more than the PS3, having any amount of decline is a disaster in itself. With how popular the PS4 was, it should have gone up a lot, yet it still was down. And no, another price cut wouldn't have added enough sales to break even with the PS3, let alone change the sales trend and trajectory in Japan.

The PS5 is outpacing the PS4, that's true, but that was also a very low bar to pass. I mean, the commercial failure that is the Wii U sold better launch-aligned in Japan than the PS4 - and would still lead the PS5 by that metric. It doesn't have the sales decline the PS4 had, so it can have a genuine increase. But for that, it will need more support from Japanese developers bringing unique Japanese titles, as these are still pretty rare on the radar of PS5 releases. But the chances are there for the PS5 to change the trend in Japan, Sony just needs to grab them.

Nope still is. Amusing how you conveniently left the rest of the sentence: in AAA games.

If SK, China and Taiwan want to play COD, GTA, FF, RE, MHW etc etc on console there is only Playstation. PS5 is outpacing PS4 in these places while still being supply constrained.

Sony predicts Y3 for PS5 to be 23 million+ more than PS4 ever could do, further showing notable growth.

Japan's decline is factually miniscule no matter how you spin it. A 5% decline despite being higher in price. WiiU sold 3.3 million LTD. PS4 sold more than 3 times that, what a disingenuous comparison.

Japanese dev support is by standard, like previous gens, industry best on Playstation. The only platform that comes close to amount of Japanese games PS gets is PC.

Agente42 said:
src said:

Nonsense.

PS4 showed massive growth in Asia (bar Japan) and PS5 is only going to increase that userbase. Playstation is unrivalled in Asia in playing AAA console games from around the world, and the audience for such games is only continuing to grow in China, South Korea and Taiwan.

Japan's decline is also miniscule. PS3: 10.2 million, PS4 9.5 million (and this is with Sony not doing further price cuts). PS5 is actually outpacing PS4 in Japan. Another easy 9-10 million while Xbox struggles to do 100k.

Nonsense. Why? South Korea, China, and Taiwan show this.

Only if you read the data wrong. PS4 is a 7 year old system on the way out. EVen then it showed massive growth from PS3.

PS5 is doing better than PS4, so no, the data shows Playstation continuing to grow in SK, China and Taiwan.



src said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Playstation was unrivaled in Asia and RoW in general. But with the Switch, Nintendo has kicked Sony from the throne in an increasing amount of countries. Switch has sold over 5M in the RoW last year, which is way above anything any Playstation managed to sell in the RoW in a single year ever. And the Switch sales are up compared to last year, meaning this trend isn't about to stop.

If you look at the platform sales in the RoW, Sony has reigned supreme in the past. The bestselling ones are all Playstation consoles, with PS2, PS4, PSP, and PS3, in that order, on the top 4 spots. Number 5 is the DS, but the Switch is already just behind and will pass the DS this summer, and also the PS3, which is barely in front of the DS. The PSP could fall this holiday season, and in 2022 or 2023 it will surpass the PS4 even with slowing sales in that region. This just shows that Nintendo has finally understood and is conquering the RoW market, and most notable for this change here is the Asian market.

As for Japan's decline, it's not minuscule. Considering that the PS4 sold almost 50% more than the PS3, having any amount of decline is a disaster in itself. With how popular the PS4 was, it should have gone up a lot, yet it still was down. And no, another price cut wouldn't have added enough sales to break even with the PS3, let alone change the sales trend and trajectory in Japan.

The PS5 is outpacing the PS4, that's true, but that was also a very low bar to pass. I mean, the commercial failure that is the Wii U sold better launch-aligned in Japan than the PS4 - and would still lead the PS5 by that metric. It doesn't have the sales decline the PS4 had, so it can have a genuine increase. But for that, it will need more support from Japanese developers bringing unique Japanese titles, as these are still pretty rare on the radar of PS5 releases. But the chances are there for the PS5 to change the trend in Japan, Sony just needs to grab them.

Nope still is. Amusing how you conveniently left the rest of the sentence: in AAA games.

If SK, China and Taiwan want to play COD, GTA, FF, RE, MHW etc etc on console there is only Playstation. PS5 is outpacing PS4 in these places while still being supply constrained.

Sony predicts Y3 for PS5 to be 23 million+ more than PS4 ever could do, further showing notable growth.

Japan's decline is factually miniscule no matter how you spin it. A 5% decline despite being higher in price. WiiU sold 3.3 million LTD. PS4 sold more than 3 times that, what a disingenuous comparison.

Japanese dev support is by standard, like previous gens, industry best on Playstation. The only platform that comes close to amount of Japanese games PS gets is PC.

Agente42 said:

Nonsense. Why? South Korea, China, and Taiwan show this.

Only if you read the data wrong. PS4 is a 7 year old system on the way out. EVen then it showed massive growth from PS3.

PS5 is doing better than PS4, so no, the data shows Playstation continuing to grow in SK, China and Taiwan.

bolded: Why should I have mentioned AAA games in special? Those games rarely showed up in the charts in the last 3 years, and generally were beaten by some Switch games, AAA or otherwise. It's also normal: Those countries have a rather big PC gaming community - and those can have those games too, in more beautiful and more fluid no less. So there's very little incentive to buy a console specifically for those games unless they're PS exclusives.

Italic: More expensive than the PS3? Which of the two launched at $600 again?? Yes, PS dropped below $300 late in it's life, but by that point, the PS3 was already on the way out sales-wise and it didn't change the sales all too much anymore. Which is also most probably the reason why the PS4 didn't get a pricecut late in it's life anymore.

On Japanese sales: You're saying the decline is negligible because you're only looking at the absolute numbers. And from that very specific and narrow point of view, you're correct. But by doing so, you willingly miss the big picture. And relative to the total sales of the console, the decline is big, and Japan sales became an even smaller fraction of the total sales than they already were.

Underscored: Dude, the trend was already starting 3 years ago, when the PS4 was near it's peak. You're reading the data wrong because you're apparently only comparing to the PS3 (which makes the PS4 look good by comparison) and completely dismissing the Switch despite the latter having outsold the PS4 in those regions. And no, not just last year, that's been much longer in the making.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 15 June 2021

src said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Playstation was unrivaled in Asia and RoW in general. But with the Switch, Nintendo has kicked Sony from the throne in an increasing amount of countries. Switch has sold over 5M in the RoW last year, which is way above anything any Playstation managed to sell in the RoW in a single year ever. And the Switch sales are up compared to last year, meaning this trend isn't about to stop.

If you look at the platform sales in the RoW, Sony has reigned supreme in the past. The bestselling ones are all Playstation consoles, with PS2, PS4, PSP, and PS3, in that order, on the top 4 spots. Number 5 is the DS, but the Switch is already just behind and will pass the DS this summer, and also the PS3, which is barely in front of the DS. The PSP could fall this holiday season, and in 2022 or 2023 it will surpass the PS4 even with slowing sales in that region. This just shows that Nintendo has finally understood and is conquering the RoW market, and most notable for this change here is the Asian market.

As for Japan's decline, it's not minuscule. Considering that the PS4 sold almost 50% more than the PS3, having any amount of decline is a disaster in itself. With how popular the PS4 was, it should have gone up a lot, yet it still was down. And no, another price cut wouldn't have added enough sales to break even with the PS3, let alone change the sales trend and trajectory in Japan.

The PS5 is outpacing the PS4, that's true, but that was also a very low bar to pass. I mean, the commercial failure that is the Wii U sold better launch-aligned in Japan than the PS4 - and would still lead the PS5 by that metric. It doesn't have the sales decline the PS4 had, so it can have a genuine increase. But for that, it will need more support from Japanese developers bringing unique Japanese titles, as these are still pretty rare on the radar of PS5 releases. But the chances are there for the PS5 to change the trend in Japan, Sony just needs to grab them.

Nope still is. Amusing how you conveniently left the rest of the sentence: in AAA games.

If SK, China and Taiwan want to play COD, GTA, FF, RE, MHW etc etc on console there is only Playstation. PS5 is outpacing PS4 in these places while still being supply constrained.

Sony predicts Y3 for PS5 to be 23 million+ more than PS4 ever could do, further showing notable growth.

Japan's decline is factually miniscule no matter how you spin it. A 5% decline despite being higher in price. WiiU sold 3.3 million LTD. PS4 sold more than 3 times that, what a disingenuous comparison.

Japanese dev support is by standard, like previous gens, industry best on Playstation. The only platform that comes close to amount of Japanese games PS gets is PC.

Agente42 said:

Nonsense. Why? South Korea, China, and Taiwan show this.

Only if you read the data wrong. PS4 is a 7 year old system on the way out. EVen then it showed massive growth from PS3.

PS5 is doing better than PS4, so no, the data shows Playstation continuing to grow in SK, China and Taiwan.

uh why would the peole want to play this on console?

most serious gamers in these reigions are likely to own a half decent gaming rig anyway. and switch is an EXCELLENT compliemtary second device to any primary one.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
src said:

Nope still is. Amusing how you conveniently left the rest of the sentence: in AAA games.

If SK, China and Taiwan want to play COD, GTA, FF, RE, MHW etc etc on console there is only Playstation. PS5 is outpacing PS4 in these places while still being supply constrained.

Sony predicts Y3 for PS5 to be 23 million+ more than PS4 ever could do, further showing notable growth.

Japan's decline is factually miniscule no matter how you spin it. A 5% decline despite being higher in price. WiiU sold 3.3 million LTD. PS4 sold more than 3 times that, what a disingenuous comparison.

Japanese dev support is by standard, like previous gens, industry best on Playstation. The only platform that comes close to amount of Japanese games PS gets is PC.

Agente42 said:

Nonsense. Why? South Korea, China, and Taiwan show this.

Only if you read the data wrong. PS4 is a 7 year old system on the way out. EVen then it showed massive growth from PS3.

PS5 is doing better than PS4, so no, the data shows Playstation continuing to grow in SK, China and Taiwan.

bolded: Why should I have mentioned AAA games in special? Those games rarely showed up in the charts in the last 3 years, and generally were beaten by some Switch games, AAA or otherwise. It's also normal: Those countries have a rather big PC gaming community - and those can have those games too, in more beautiful and more fluid no less. So there's very little incentive to buy a console specifically for those games unless they're PS exclusives.

Italic: More expensive than the PS3? Which of the two launched at $600 again?? Yes, PS dropped below $300 late in it's life, but by that point, the PS3 was already on the way out sales-wise and it didn't change the sales all too much anymore. Which is also most probably the reason why the PS4 didn't get a pricecut late in it's life anymore.

On Japanese sales: You're saying the decline is negligible because you're only looking at the absolute numbers. And from that very specific and narrow point of view, you're correct. But by doing so, you willingly miss the big picture. And relative to the total sales of the console, the decline is big, and Japan sales became an even smaller fraction of the total sales than they already were.

Underscored: Dude, the trend was already starting 3 years ago, when the PS4 was near it's peak. You're reading the data wrong because you're apparently only comparing to the PS3 (which makes the PS4 look good by comparison) and completely dismissing the Switch despite the latter having outsold the PS4 in those regions. And no, not just last year, that's been much longer in the making.

Please tell me where you have found GTAV, COD etc LTD sales numbers in South Korea, Taiwan and China? Software sales reported by system have been good on PS4 despite being an old system and in a region where console gaming is growing massively.

Not everyone wants to play on PC, and this is shown as console gaming is becoming ever more popular in those regions.

PS3 went down to $199, while PS4 stayed at $299. PS4 did not get a price cut because Sony decided so. Its been able to sell 120M. Could it have sold more at $199? Obviously but Sony prefers higher profits than PS4 selling to 130M.

You seem to be struggling with the concept that Playstation is still growing. PS5 will have higher peaks and more software/hardware sales than PS4's peak. Nintendo may be the market leader like in Japan, but Playstation still has a significant marketshare that is unrivalled as Xbox is non existent in Asia.

TheBraveGallade said:
src said:

Nope still is. Amusing how you conveniently left the rest of the sentence: in AAA games.

If SK, China and Taiwan want to play COD, GTA, FF, RE, MHW etc etc on console there is only Playstation. PS5 is outpacing PS4 in these places while still being supply constrained.

Sony predicts Y3 for PS5 to be 23 million+ more than PS4 ever could do, further showing notable growth.

Japan's decline is factually miniscule no matter how you spin it. A 5% decline despite being higher in price. WiiU sold 3.3 million LTD. PS4 sold more than 3 times that, what a disingenuous comparison.

Japanese dev support is by standard, like previous gens, industry best on Playstation. The only platform that comes close to amount of Japanese games PS gets is PC.

Agente42 said:

Nonsense. Why? South Korea, China, and Taiwan show this.

Only if you read the data wrong. PS4 is a 7 year old system on the way out. EVen then it showed massive growth from PS3.

PS5 is doing better than PS4, so no, the data shows Playstation continuing to grow in SK, China and Taiwan.

uh why would the peole want to play this on console?

most serious gamers in these reigions are likely to own a half decent gaming rig anyway. and switch is an EXCELLENT compliemtary second device to any primary one.

Ask that to the 120M PS4 players. People play on consoles for numerous reasons: its simple, convenient, easy to set up and maintain, exclusives, its cheaper etc etc

Playstation continues to show big growth in these countries so clearly not.



src said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

bolded: Why should I have mentioned AAA games in special? Those games rarely showed up in the charts in the last 3 years, and generally were beaten by some Switch games, AAA or otherwise. It's also normal: Those countries have a rather big PC gaming community - and those can have those games too, in more beautiful and more fluid no less. So there's very little incentive to buy a console specifically for those games unless they're PS exclusives.

Italic: More expensive than the PS3? Which of the two launched at $600 again?? Yes, PS dropped below $300 late in it's life, but by that point, the PS3 was already on the way out sales-wise and it didn't change the sales all too much anymore. Which is also most probably the reason why the PS4 didn't get a pricecut late in it's life anymore.

On Japanese sales: You're saying the decline is negligible because you're only looking at the absolute numbers. And from that very specific and narrow point of view, you're correct. But by doing so, you willingly miss the big picture. And relative to the total sales of the console, the decline is big, and Japan sales became an even smaller fraction of the total sales than they already were.

Underscored: Dude, the trend was already starting 3 years ago, when the PS4 was near it's peak. You're reading the data wrong because you're apparently only comparing to the PS3 (which makes the PS4 look good by comparison) and completely dismissing the Switch despite the latter having outsold the PS4 in those regions. And no, not just last year, that's been much longer in the making.

Please tell me where you have found GTAV, COD etc LTD sales numbers in South Korea, Taiwan and China? Software sales reported by system have been good on PS4 despite being an old system and in a region where console gaming is growing massively.

Not everyone wants to play on PC, and this is shown as console gaming is becoming ever more popular in those regions.

PS3 went down to $199, while PS4 stayed at $299. PS4 did not get a price cut because Sony decided so. Its been able to sell 120M. Could it have sold more at $199? Obviously but Sony prefers higher profits than PS4 selling to 130M.

You seem to be struggling with the concept that Playstation is still growing. PS5 will have higher peaks and more software/hardware sales than PS4's peak. Nintendo may be the market leader like in Japan, but Playstation still has a significant marketshare that is unrivalled as Xbox is non existent in Asia.

TheBraveGallade said:

uh why would the peole want to play this on console?

most serious gamers in these reigions are likely to own a half decent gaming rig anyway. and switch is an EXCELLENT compliemtary second device to any primary one.

Ask that to the 120M PS4 players. People play on consoles for numerous reasons: its simple, convenient, easy to set up and maintain, exclusives, its cheaper etc etc

Playstation continues to show big growth in these countries so clearly not.

The discussion was about those in Korea, Taiwan or China, not Worldwide. And there, PC gaming is much more prevalent than console gaming, and as a result, they don't need to buy an extra console for those games.

Also, cheaper is not fully true either. A console is cheaper than a PC with similar specs (especially now when GPUs are almost unobtainable except from scalpers), but the games are generally cheaper on PC.

As for the big growth, we'll have to see. PS5 is outpacing the PS4 so far, but the console is only out for half a year and thus we don't have any long-term trends yet. But I agree the situation is favorable for the PS5 to grow potentially in Korea, China and Taiwan, and in RoW in general right now.