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DonFerrari said:
Pemalite said:

What Kraken chip? You aren't confusing things are you? Because the Kraken decompressor isn't actually a chip, it's a fixed function unit on the APU.



He means the custom sony decompressor chip that works along kraken. He also forgot to mention the benefits of the gpu cache scrubbers.



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Sounds interesting, maybe it could contribute towards a uniquely small sizae which could be a major USP when they finally reveal the hardware. i wouldn't mind paying a slight premium for an awesome design.



KratosLives said:
DonFerrari said:

He means the custom sony decompressor chip that works along kraken. He also forgot to mention the benefits of the gpu cache scrubbers.

It's not a chip. It's a logic block on the APU.

Cache scrubbers isn't a new thing.



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Does it matter if it's something new or not?
If it is better and IF it is actually used for the PS5 it could be a positive.



Immersiveunreality said:

Does it matter if it's something new or not?
If it is better and IF it is actually used for the PS5 it could be a positive.

Yes. Especially if individuals are proclaiming it as some kind of "special sauce" and a feature "never before seen" in the tech industry in order to hype up their products under a false narrative. - It's disingenuous.

Sadly it happens regardless of platform holder you support.

Is the cooling method better? Potentially. But the question remains... At what cost? Could it have been done cheaper? Better perhaps?



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Pemalite said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Does it matter if it's something new or not?
If it is better and IF it is actually used for the PS5 it could be a positive.

Yes. Especially if individuals are proclaiming it as some kind of "special sauce" and a feature "never before seen" in the tech industry in order to hype up their products under a false narrative. - It's disingenuous.

Sadly it happens regardless of platform holder you support.

Is the cooling method better? Potentially. But the question remains... At what cost? Could it have been done cheaper? Better perhaps?

If it is a ''special sauce'' or not remains to be seen when it's actually used and thoroughly tested after release to determine whether or not it makes a proportionate enough difference to be considered that,it could be a good evolution for PS hardware.(there are probably not even certain comparisons to be made in order to refute those being ''overly'' optimistic about it)

Bolded:The team behind this hardware most likely know it a lot better than assumingly most if not all the users on this site and it would be unlike them to not be considering those aspects in this new project.



Immersiveunreality said:
Pemalite said:

Yes. Especially if individuals are proclaiming it as some kind of "special sauce" and a feature "never before seen" in the tech industry in order to hype up their products under a false narrative. - It's disingenuous.

Sadly it happens regardless of platform holder you support.

Is the cooling method better? Potentially. But the question remains... At what cost? Could it have been done cheaper? Better perhaps?

If it is a ''special sauce'' or not remains to be seen when it's actually used and thoroughly tested after release to determine whether or not it makes a proportionate enough difference to be considered that,it could be a good evolution for PS hardware.(there are probably not even certain comparisons to be made in order to refute those being ''overly'' optimistic about it)

Bolded:The team behind this hardware most likely know it a lot better than assumingly most if not all the users on this site and it would be unlike them to not be considering those aspects in this new project.

The capabilities of Sony's engineers aren't in question.
But there is a reason why we have only done cooling a certain way for decades.



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Pemalite said:
Immersiveunreality said:

If it is a ''special sauce'' or not remains to be seen when it's actually used and thoroughly tested after release to determine whether or not it makes a proportionate enough difference to be considered that,it could be a good evolution for PS hardware.(there are probably not even certain comparisons to be made in order to refute those being ''overly'' optimistic about it)

Bolded:The team behind this hardware most likely know it a lot better than assumingly most if not all the users on this site and it would be unlike them to not be considering those aspects in this new project.

The capabilities of Sony's engineers aren't in question.
But there is a reason why we have only done cooling a certain way for decades.

You are correct, we have seen cooling handled mainly by heatsinks and airflow , but it is obvious that we have arrived at a point where the manufacturers even when taking into consideration the improved thermals we see with each gen are feeling that the time as come too look at not so much alternative cooling solutions but adding additional cooling methods in conjunction with traditional cooling, Ms's use of vapour chambers illustrates the start of that trend and their approach of dividing the chipset with a large heatsink is a continuation of looking at novel solutions than just more of the same just bigger and stronger.



Pemalite said:
Immersiveunreality said:

If it is a ''special sauce'' or not remains to be seen when it's actually used and thoroughly tested after release to determine whether or not it makes a proportionate enough difference to be considered that,it could be a good evolution for PS hardware.(there are probably not even certain comparisons to be made in order to refute those being ''overly'' optimistic about it)

Bolded:The team behind this hardware most likely know it a lot better than assumingly most if not all the users on this site and it would be unlike them to not be considering those aspects in this new project.

The capabilities of Sony's engineers aren't in question.
But there is a reason why we have only done cooling a certain way for decades.

I'm sure there is but maybe the innovation can lie within a more efficient way to implement it,but we are discussing ghosts at the moment so it might be just best to see what they bring.



Immersiveunreality said:
Pemalite said:

The capabilities of Sony's engineers aren't in question.
But there is a reason why we have only done cooling a certain way for decades.

I'm sure there is but maybe the innovation can lie within a more efficient way to implement it,but we are discussing ghosts at the moment so it might be just best to see what they bring.

That is my entire argument though. It's a patent, we don't know if it's actually part of a real product or if it's even effective and thus we should take a "wait and see approach".



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