Perfectly said. Has been sentiment all along. No one buying either console would be disappointed.

Funny enough, as log as a porting from PC to SX would be pretty easy. They are both going to be based on DXU/12. There is just far less arbitration on the SX than on PC which would mean that you would need more powerful hardware all round to do what the SX would do. 

Then again that could be said about all consoles. 

If anything is ported in 1 week then certainly that won't have anything done to optmize and use that HW the most, so that would be even more detrimental to the crossgen titles.

speaking of that, I cant say I understand much of it, but I do hear on some channels that DX12U is les benefitial for optimizing games as sonys solution. While it makes game porting much easy, the overhead is to high as MS has intended it for games to be made on pc, then scaled to xbox family and higher end pc's. Unlike sonys wich is dedicated to be a playstation volcan like api just for them so its way lower level than dx12u. How I heard it is that optimization to put a random number on it, could be that you might need a 15--20% stronger pc if you to match an xbox if you get a lot out its optimization, but for a playstation you might need 20-30% stronger pc.

I cant say I know much about programing games, And this is just me with a wierd conspiracy now, but if games are being made now primarily on pc then ported to consoles, it would make the xbox the lead platform wich is something MS wants. But if the PS5 gets to much of a lead and devs make the ps5 the lead just because they are choosing the leading platform, then we might see devs push the ps5's advantages more aggressively. 

Porting PC to PS4 is quite easy and Cerny said it got even easier with PS5, and that devs can ignore all the new features of PS5 and program as they were used to if they want. Plus about 1 month to get things running on PS5. So I don't think PC being the lead platform will be an issue.

Im sorry I dint mean that there could be some issue. Just that wich ever platform is lead will be better optimized. Could result in better results if devs choose to do so. My intent was to talk about the over head in the apis being used. Its believed that the ps5 can squeeze more out the hardware if devs choose. 

I would say 3rd parties hardly go that way so let's just keep our expectations in check for the first party games.

Well SNY did boast about the PS3's power because 360 wasn't a slouch, and PS3 also didn't have the same quality online or third party titles. SNY screwed up with PS3 and they know it, which is a good thing going forward. MS needs to do a ton of brand building and the power narrative is an easy way to start that off. Hopefully that's the case because the hardware boasting eventually wears off if it's not eventually followed by stellar games.

SNY didn't even need to bother bragging about PS4 early on because MS just kept punching themselves over and over. PS3 wasn't all that much different in terms of negativity initially, it's just that it was the gamers that were punching SNY after seeing Kaz punch himself just once, hard, while MS celebrated.

This gen could be more proof of whether hardware performance really matters that much. As long as it remains XBSX vs PS5. Odds are good with mid gen consoles, XBSXX will still outperform PS5 Pro on paper. Now if Lockhart shows up, then the power narrative will be tough to decipher unless MS puts out separate sales info, if they release it at all.

I know I am beginning to sound like a broken record now... The XSX has a very specific advantage. GPU compute. And its such a small advantage that it is not going to amount to the kinda difference most seem to be suggesting. These consoles have the smallest differences between the HD twins..... ever. You don't have to take my word for it, and in time we will see.

Oh by the way, if MS is going with "worlds most powerful console", Sony should go with "worlds fastest console". 

speaking of that, I cant say I understand much of it, but I do hear on some channels that DX12U is les benefitial for optimizing games as sonys solution. While it makes game porting much easy, the overhead is to high as MS has intended it for games to be made on pc, then scaled to xbox family and higher end pc's. Unlike sonys wich is dedicated to be a playstation volcan like api just for them so its way lower level than dx12u. How I heard it is that optimization to put a random number on it, could be that you might need a 15--20% stronger pc if you to match an xbox if you get a lot out its optimization, but for a playstation you might need 20-30% stronger pc.

I cant say I know much about programing games, And this is just me with a wierd conspiracy now, but if games are being made now primarily on pc then ported to consoles, it would make the xbox the lead platform wich is something MS wants. But if the PS5 gets to much of a lead and devs make the ps5 the lead just because they are choosing the leading platform, then we might see devs push the ps5's advantages more aggressively. 

Porting PC to PS4 is quite easy and Cerny said it got even easier with PS5, and that devs can ignore all the new features of PS5 and program as they were used to if they want. Plus about 1 month to get things running on PS5. So I don't think PC being the lead platform will be an issue.

It wont be a hassle to optimise games for multiple systems next gen, same with the Series X, XB1 and Lockheart. MS can port Horizon 4 to PC in less than a week using DX12 so I will assume the same will go for next gen games. Also as it seems neither console is hard to develop for plus developers prefer to have there games on more systems as it increases the chance of more sales etc.

Back in the days when we had consoles with alienated architectures, that was when porting and optimising games for other platforms was a bitch.. these days Xbox and PS are PCs and with improvements to APIs like Direct X and with Backwards compatibility being a focus point before launch only has made it many times easier.

Sony did embellish it's capabilities at it's E3 presentation where they demonstrated some physics effects that... Put simple, we never saw in 7th gen games anyway.

Plus the target renders that never matched up with actual game releases... But that is pretty normal for the entire gaming industry. *cough*Ubisoft*cough*

The issue is when the general fanbase latches onto something and runs with it... The "Power of the Cell" was a pretty potent "catch phrase" throughout the entire consoles lifetime, to the point where people thought the PS3 was superior to a PC or a Super Computer.

Same thing happened with the Playstation 4 where people latched onto it's 8GB of GDDR5 and it's Teraflop advantage...

And now we are seeing it again, this time with the SSD.

It's the same old cycle, just with slightly different heading.

Don't get me wrong, I think it is fantastic that people are so enamored with their brand preferences and are genuinely excited.. But for those who almost live in the tech-sphere, it gets droll rather quickly... Because these people are flaunting specifications without actually understanding their ramifications, heck even their purpose.

Microsoft can leverage "fastest" as well. It's CPU, GPU and Ram is faster.