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Heh, the Switch has no lack of games being released.  What Switch lacks is game announcements.  The crazy thing is that we have gotten to the point where the announcement seems more important than the games themselves.  I mean I can relate to wanting a Nintendo Direct.  I've been thinking about it for weeks just like everyone else.  I guess, unlike the OP, I am not filled with anger and/or despair over it yet.  I am still full of anticipation.

Sony's strategy for the past generation has mostly been to announce big games several years in advance, and that is also what AAA third parties do too.  So if they announce a game 3 times before releasing it, then it feels like 3 times as many games are being released.  Meanwhile Nintendo keeps their cards very close to the chest, and most of the Switch games they announce are released less than a year later.  They can both have an E3 presentation where they show off about the same number of games, but Switch actually has more significant releases per year.

Here's an example based on games about to be released.  Animal Crossing: New Horizons was first announced all the way back during E3, 2019.  It's been a long wait hasn't it?  When was Final Fantasy 7 Remake first announced?  All the way back during E3, 2015.  But Sony can keep teasing this game over and over again, so it seems like they have a lot of games coming, even if they are spread out over the course of 3-5 years.  The PS4 was less than 2 years old when FF7R was first announced.  The PS4 was younger when FF7R was first announced than the Switch was when Animal Crossing: New Horizons was first announced.  We actually have to wait a really, really long time to get the big games on the PS4, because Sony and AAA third parties announce them so far ahead of time.

Personally I prefer the way Nintendo does it.  I find long waits to be frustrating.  Yeah, we've all waited a long time for this next Direct, but waiting for a Direct is not nearly as bad as waiting for a game I really want.  I very much prefer all the announced games to come out a year or less after they are announced.  I feel like most of the game industry is trying to mess with me and make it seem like they have more than they really do.  Nintendo doesn't have to announce games 5 years ahead of time, because they have plenty of games coming out this year.

So, I don't know why Nintendo is waiting so long to release a Direct, whether it is due to COVID-19 or they just want to wait til after Animal Crossing is released or whatever other reason.  All I know is that I like how Nintendo announces things, and I don't want them to change their format.  I am confident they have games coming, because the alternative is purely contrary to everything they've done so far.  In fact what they've been doing for the last few months is give a mini direct whenever games are almost about to be released.  We are in no way lacking in games.  What we are really lacking is merely announcements.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

Here's an example based on games about to be released.  Animal Crossing: New Horizons was first announced all the way back during E3, 2019.  It's been a long wait hasn't it?  When was Final Fantasy 7 Remake first announced?  All the way back during E3, 2015.  But Sony can keep teasing this game over and over again, so it seems like they have a lot of games coming, even if they are spread out over the course of 3-5 years.  The PS4 was less than 2 years old when FF7R was first announced.  The PS4 was younger when FF7R was first announced than the Switch was when Animal Crossing: New Horizons was first announced.  We actually have to wait a really, really long time to get the big games on the PS4, because Sony and AAA third parties announce them so far ahead of time.

Personally I prefer the way Nintendo does it.  I find long waits to be frustrating.  Yeah, we've all waited a long time for this next Direct, but waiting for a Direct is not nearly as bad as waiting for a game I really want.  I very much prefer all the announced games to come out a year or less after they are announced.  I feel like most of the game industry is trying to mess with me and make it seem like they have more than they really do.  Nintendo doesn't have to announce games 5 years ahead of time, because they have plenty of games coming out this year.


For people who doesn't have much free money is good to know in advance the games that's gonna be released, so we can pick the ones we want and save enough money for them

I understand americans don't have that concern (because games are generally priced on dollar), but right now a Nintendo triple A game is around 30% of the minium wage in my country, that's a lot



Analysts clearly said some games past april might suffer from Covid-19.
It is probably happening next week anyway



I think it's more a matter of Nintendo no longer wanting to announce games that they're not 100% sure will release in the next 6-12 months. They've had several big game announcements in the past that ended up being extremely premature in terms of how far out they were (i.e. Animal Crossing, Bayo 3, BOTW 2, Prime 4, etc), so I think they're trying to avoid that going forward. I'm guessing they were probably getting ready to announce a lot of this year's slate over the past month, but then corona hit Japan hard and now the whole world, so that could very well have thrown their plans off. I highly doubt they don't have much of anything for this year to show, surely they couldn't be that stupid with how successful the Switch has been and no longer having two platforms to develop for.



IcaroRibeiro said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Here's an example based on games about to be released.  Animal Crossing: New Horizons was first announced all the way back during E3, 2019.  It's been a long wait hasn't it?  When was Final Fantasy 7 Remake first announced?  All the way back during E3, 2015.  But Sony can keep teasing this game over and over again, so it seems like they have a lot of games coming, even if they are spread out over the course of 3-5 years.  The PS4 was less than 2 years old when FF7R was first announced.  The PS4 was younger when FF7R was first announced than the Switch was when Animal Crossing: New Horizons was first announced.  We actually have to wait a really, really long time to get the big games on the PS4, because Sony and AAA third parties announce them so far ahead of time.

Personally I prefer the way Nintendo does it.  I find long waits to be frustrating.  Yeah, we've all waited a long time for this next Direct, but waiting for a Direct is not nearly as bad as waiting for a game I really want.  I very much prefer all the announced games to come out a year or less after they are announced.  I feel like most of the game industry is trying to mess with me and make it seem like they have more than they really do.  Nintendo doesn't have to announce games 5 years ahead of time, because they have plenty of games coming out this year.


For people who doesn't have much free money is good to know in advance the games that's gonna be released, so we can pick the ones we want and save enough money for them

I understand americans don't have that concern (because games are generally priced on dollar), but right now a Nintendo triple A game is around 30% of the minium wage in my country, that's a lot

This is a good point that I didn't consider.  In the US, we also have a healthy second hand market, and so a person can easily get a game cheaper than $60 if they are willing to wait.  

Also our minimum wage is stated as an hourly wage.  When you say "30%", is that 30% of a week's wage?



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

This is a good point that I didn't consider.  In the US, we also have a healthy second hand market, and so a person can easily get a game cheaper than $60 if they are willing to wait.  

Also our minimum wage is stated as an hourly wage.  When you say "30%", is that 30% of a week's wage?

Unfortunately, I meant month's minium wage. Even for a middle class worker like myself one game a month is barely affordable 

To be fair we are experiencing a heavy decrease in our currency this year (decreased around 25% since January), but stills the fact gaming is very expensive here since forever



The_Liquid_Laser said:

Personally I prefer the way Nintendo does it.  I find long waits to be frustrating.  Yeah, we've all waited a long time for this next Direct, but waiting for a Direct is not nearly as bad as waiting for a game I really want.  I very much prefer all the announced games to come out a year or less after they are announced.  I feel like most of the game industry is trying to mess with me and make it seem like they have more than they really do.  Nintendo doesn't have to announce games 5 years ahead of time, because they have plenty of games coming out this year.

So, I don't know why Nintendo is waiting so long to release a Direct, whether it is due to COVID-19 or they just want to wait til after Animal Crossing is released or whatever other reason.  All I know is that I like how Nintendo announces things, and I don't want them to change their format.  I am confident they have games coming, because the alternative is purely contrary to everything they've done so far.  In fact what they've been doing for the last few months is give a mini direct whenever games are almost about to be released.  We are in no way lacking in games.  What we are really lacking is merely announcements.

It's hard to say for sure which I prefer, because I've never only been exposed to the 'cards close to the chest' strategy.
But I do really like knowing as soon as possible which games are coming up. And not only do 5+ years for a release not bother me (I play other games in the meantime while imagining the game I'm waiting for is getting more dev time and becoming even better), but I just realized that what potentially bothers me is when there's just a few days away to release. Then I may get restless.

Like now for example. Was never bothered in the slightest by FF7's development, or delay. Quite the contrary, I want that game to have as much dev time put into it as possible. But now that it's just two weeks away, I'm anxious to play it.

IcaroRibeiro said:

Unfortunately, I meant month's minium wage. Even for a middle class worker like myself one game a month is barely affordable 

To be fair we are experiencing a heavy decrease in our currency this year (decreased around 25% since January), but stills the fact gaming is very expensive here since forever

Jeez, that's rough. I remember calculating my daily wage at an average job I took up temporarily some years back, and it was about $60 per day (more than that if you count taxes), so I thought of it as one videogame per day.
If a game costs a whole months salary, how do people do it?



Hiku said:

I remember calculating my daily wage at an average job I took up temporarily some years back, and it was about $60 per day (more than that if you count taxes), so I thought of it as one videogame per day.

Wow...

...yeah. If you get paid $300 a month here, you're in luck.



mZuzek said:
Hiku said:

I remember calculating my daily wage at an average job I took up temporarily some years back, and it was about $60 per day (more than that if you count taxes), so I thought of it as one videogame per day.

Wow...

...yeah. If you get paid $300 a month here, you're in luck.

Do things like groceries cost as much for you guys as they do for us then? As in, 1,5 Liter milk costs about $0,8 - $1,2 here.
A Twix is around $0,7.

I imagine it's just certain items like videogames that cost a lot for you guys.



Hiku said:
mZuzek said:

Wow...

...yeah. If you get paid $300 a month here, you're in luck.

Do things like groceries cost as much for you guys as they do for us then? As in, 1,5 Liter milk costs about $0,8 - $1,2 here.
A Twix is around $0,7.

I imagine it's just certain items like videogames that cost a lot for you guys.

Hmm...

No, those prices are about right, actually. Maybe a little less, because inflation isn't keeping up with how fast the dollar rate is rising. But they're definitely not too far off.