boy some of the responses in this thread are hilarious

But...like....isn't that exactly what you're doing...?

1. Nintendo fans aren't only satisfied with Nintendo games. We've been over this before. Nintendo fans buy lots of 3rd party games. They just want and expect a certain amount of new Nintendo-made games per year. Nintendo fans aren't like MS fans. We expect good, and steady 1st party support for our console.

2. They don't assume Nintendo isn't making games. Of course they are making games. But those games won't be out this year. You keep claiming that Nintendo is releasing games, while missing the entire point. We want new Nintendo-made games.

@Bolded Pikmin isn't new. Paper Mario is a benchwarmer franchise. Paper Mario hasn't been up to the usual Nintendo standards since the Wii era. And even if I were to cut you some slack, and say that Paper Mario is a new Nintendo game, that's only two games this year. It's almost September and it looks like 2020 will be...

Animal Crossing
Paper Mario

and that's it.

500 posts in this thread, 0 announced big Nintendo games for this holiday!

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It's still amazing to me that the richest company in Japan keeps its consumers so in the dark. But I guess that's why they do it. They can sit on a mountain of money and continue adding to the pile in most circumstances.
Switch's 2017, while not near-perfect like some claim, was still fantastic. And that is even when you count only the calendar year of 2017 from March 3 to December 31. No year since has matched, but 2019 came closer than any so far. Apparently, COVID-19 has not impacted Nintendo software development. If that's true, I can't believe 2020 is like this so far. 2021 better be a fantastic year for the Switch in terms of hardware availability, first-party games, and third-party games.

The entertainment value of this thread almost makes the situation slightly worth it.

Very well said Rol, I'm also belonging to the old folks and at our age we usually don't have so much time anyway for playing games. Sometimes we are even happy when there's nothing new so we can finally work-down some of our pile of shame or simply buy an older game we missed. Incl. indies, there's more to play than you have time. I personally even like if we still have surprises in our internet and social media age. I actually like late announcements that hit us from nowhere. Nintendo holidays titles release in late October at the earliest, usually in November and December, so an announcement in September is early enough, seriously. Times have changed, it's not necessary anymore to advertise a title months or even a year before release. If you have a big title, the day it is announced, social medias and the internet explode and it continues until release - more than enough advertisement! The mass market doesn't care anyway, often they see new games only if they go to Amazon, Gamestop, etc. and if an upcoming game appears there months ahead of release, they will forget about it anyway in the meantime.

I’ll respond to whoever I want. That’s the point of a discussion forum. You can ignore me if you want, but I am under no obligation to do the same when you’ve provided me something to respond to. Also, you’re the one being overly hostile to me for no reason, but treating me as though it is the other way around.

Dismissing the evidence in my post as “it’s happening in spite of that, I don’t care about the facts, and therefore you have no evidence, and therefore the opposite of what you’re saying is true” is not a valid argument in the slightest.

You are acting like Nintendo owes you some specific kind of marketing strategy that goes against their business goals. The point of the marketing is to generate the most interest in products for the launch period and beyond, that is all Nintendo has to do. Unless you’re an investor, there is absolutely nothing that obligates Nintendo to provide you their future plans. You are a customer, what is relevant is what is available for you to buy. The reality is that you do have things to look forward to, there is no reason for you to know your Christmas presents before Christmas Day in order to look forward to Christmas.

Also, your opinion of “Nintendo is more terrible than ever” doesn’t have objective validity. At best you can say you don’t like what Nintendo is doing. All you’ve really shown is that what you think is terrible for Nintendo is actually GREAT for for Nintendo’s business - that’s where the facts point; and you can’t simply prove the opposite by saying “they’re good in spite of that and the results don’t matter” - that would be literally circular illogic.

I’ll point out that you have a long history of saying that what Nintendo is doing with the Switch is terrible for business, and  that dates back to before the Switch launch. This is where the contention lies, because I wholeheartedly disagree with you on that. As it happens, the facts support my stance and not yours. That Nintendo’s approach in the Kimishima/Furukawa era have been the best they’ve had: platform specific sales are higher than ever, they recovered from one of their lowest ever periods in the Wii U/3DS era; the stock values are on a stable upward trend and are higher than every period outside of September 2007 to January 2008; and, it’s not simply a COVID thing since Nintendo’s sales were already trending here long before COVID with the quarter just prior to the pandemic lockdowns being 97% of record levels for any Nintendo platform, ever.

There are two choices here:

1. Provide evidence to explain the discrepancy between what you think should be happening with the Switch, and the reality of what has happened with the Switch.

2. Accept the facts and face reality as the result of Nintendo’s current marketing strategy.

Before you do that, you should also understand that you are letting your feelings get in the way of your objectivity and therefore generating a huge bias. As a result, you are making baseless statements about Nintendo as a whole as though they are objectively doing something terrible.

Also, you have my sympathies for depression, but I don’t think it’s fair to throw that in my face to support your arguments about Nintendo’s marketing practices. My posts are about the topic, they’re not about you and your problems.

Excellent post!

I don’t really have anything to add, but wanted to call this out.