Staring into the abyss of a world where Nintendo has no games scheduled for release. Edit: The Time of Darkness Has Arrived

[Jumpin]

curl-6 said:

Jumpin said:

1. Market cannibalization is a well documented phenomenon. While sometimes it is necessary to disrupt competitors, in cases like the Switch where Nintendo has carved out a very large (and growing) niche for itself, such strategies are not only unnecessary, but just needlessly lowering sales. There is absolutely no reason to draw attention to future products. Sure, you state the concept of market cannibalization is bullshit, but where's your argument?

2. Incorrect on the first point. Covid lockdowns didn't begin until the end of the quarter, Nintendo's sales were way up before that. Additionally, Animal Crossing didn't come out until the end of the quarter, and its continued success does not support your point, it supports mine; Nintendo's current strategy is a good one.

3. I've already addressed this. Nintendo has released a fairly continuous stream of info, only it is focused on relevant products rather than focusing on ones that won't be relevant for months/years - like they did in the failing Wii U era.

4. Nintendo's quarterly report was announced for August 6th quite some time ago. You can speculate all you want about what Nintendo's announcements are going to be, and put a negative spin on it all you want, but the only conclusion we can draw from it is that you're a very negative person who prefers to argue with straw man arguments rather than engaging with the facts available.

New software announcements increases interest in the hardware, more hardware sales means more people to buy existing games. The idea that updating consumers on future games would hurt sales of existing games is pure bullshit.

Again, I don't give a fuck if they're selling well, that is happening in spite of their ongoing disgusting mistreatment of their fanbase, not because of it. There is zero evidence whatsoever that their lack of communication is in any way helping.

I've been a Nintendo fan for decades and this is the worst they've ever behaved, worse than 2011, worse than 2012, worse than 2016 even. It is fucking unacceptable to leave fans with no dated major games at all.

If you're okay with it, fine, but don't you dare try to tell me I should be okay with it.

In fact, just please stop quoting me, I'm tired of this shit. I'm trying not to be negative, but I just keep getting dragged back into threads like this. I'm depressed, I'm afraid for my life every day, and now I can't even enjoy my favourite hobby, one of the only things that brings me any peace or joy. Just leave me alone, please.

I’ll respond to whoever I want. That’s the point of a discussion forum. You can ignore me if you want, but I am under no obligation to do the same when you’ve provided me something to respond to. Also, you’re the one being overly hostile to me for no reason, but treating me as though it is the other way around.

Dismissing the evidence in my post as “it’s happening in spite of that, I don’t care about the facts, and therefore you have no evidence, and therefore the opposite of what you’re saying is true” is not a valid argument in the slightest.

You are acting like Nintendo owes you some specific kind of marketing strategy that goes against their business goals. The point of the marketing is to generate the most interest in products for the launch period and beyond, that is all Nintendo has to do. Unless you’re an investor, there is absolutely nothing that obligates Nintendo to provide you their future plans. You are a customer, what is relevant is what is available for you to buy. The reality is that you do have things to look forward to, there is no reason for you to know your Christmas presents before Christmas Day in order to look forward to Christmas.

Also, your opinion of “Nintendo is more terrible than ever” doesn’t have objective validity. At best you can say you don’t like what Nintendo is doing. All you’ve really shown is that what you think is terrible for Nintendo is actually GREAT for for Nintendo’s business - that’s where the facts point; and you can’t simply prove the opposite by saying “they’re good in spite of that and the results don’t matter” - that would be literally circular illogic.

I’ll point out that you have a long history of saying that what Nintendo is doing with the Switch is terrible for business, and  that dates back to before the Switch launch. This is where the contention lies, because I wholeheartedly disagree with you on that. As it happens, the facts support my stance and not yours. That Nintendo’s approach in the Kimishima/Furukawa era have been the best they’ve had: platform specific sales are higher than ever, they recovered from one of their lowest ever periods in the Wii U/3DS era; the stock values are on a stable upward trend and are higher than every period outside of September 2007 to January 2008; and, it’s not simply a COVID thing since Nintendo’s sales were already trending here long before COVID with the quarter just prior to the pandemic lockdowns being 97% of record levels for any Nintendo platform, ever.

There are two choices here:

1. Provide evidence to explain the discrepancy between what you think should be happening with the Switch, and the reality of what has happened with the Switch.

2. Accept the facts and face reality as the result of Nintendo’s current marketing strategy.

Before you do that, you should also understand that you are letting your feelings get in the way of your objectivity and therefore generating a huge bias. As a result, you are making baseless statements about Nintendo as a whole as though they are objectively doing something terrible.

Also, you have my sympathies for depression, but I don’t think it’s fair to throw that in my face to support your arguments about Nintendo’s marketing practices. My posts are about the topic, they’re not about you and your problems.