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Dulfite said:
sales2099 said:

Well to be fair, FIFA is a juggernaut every year and it just managed to sell 1 million on Switch?? That’s pretty low.

Apparently these numbers stopped updated after 2018.

yup i just looked at minecraft  JP 0.25m NA 0.69 EU 0.56 other 0.12m Total 1.89m now we know that japan alone is over a million so the real number is much higher



Meh. Everyone's entitled to their opinions. Would love break off joycons and have a game of Madden during a tailgate, but if they don't want to make it, I guess they won't get my money.



So what you're saying, EA, is that Nintendo gamers are more discerning and can tell cash grabs from quality. Innovation over Iteration. Well at least they're being honest with themselves and their investors.



Mnementh said:
sales2099 said:
I mean we all know this. You buy Nintendo systems for Nintendo games. 3rd party games get scraps, and usually only if the games are high profile.

I guess all these game devs are idiots then:

No need to get defensive? FYI it’s good to be aware of your favourite consoles weaknesses. The highest game sale, by far, are all 1st party. Xbox and PlayStation are dominated by 3rd party sales. 

Look I’ll do it: Xbox One has a serious lack of 1st party exclusives. See it’s ok to be self aware :)

That’s just devs trying to cash in on the sales. Unless they are high profile rereleases most will be lucky to sell 100k-500k lifetime.  



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

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DonFerrari said:
Nothing new under the sun. And probably they deem it not enough profit to be made in several of the games they release on PS4/X1 if they were to port to Switch. But yes let's hate EA for not releasing the games we wouldn't buy anyway.

These statements are as convincing as EA's.



sales2099 said:

No need to get defensive? FYI it’s good to be aware of your favourite consoles weaknesses. The highest game sale, by far, are all 1st party. Xbox and PlayStation are dominated by 3rd party sales. 

Look I’ll do it: Xbox One has a serious lack of 1st party exclusives. See it’s ok to be self aware :)

That’s just devs trying to cash in on the sales. Unless they are high profile rereleases most will be lucky to sell 100k-500k lifetime.  

That's because Microsoft recognized that there isn't much room for other titles than third party on the Xbox One.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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GoOnKid said:
SKMBlake said:

Well Activision put Crash and Spyro trilogies, didn't they ?

And those games are well suited for the console

Yes that is true, however that was merely by accident after one single developer tried to build a Crash level out of curiosity on the Switch and it turned out it worked perfectly fine. Only then the publisher allowed the team to build a Switch version. So this story implicates that Activision had no intention to release it on the obvious well suited platform at first, but it's even worse because it also tells us that they didn't even consider it necessary to put the Switch to a simple benchmark test and validate what can and cannot be done on the system. They had a Skylanders game at launch, though, I have to admit. Turned out that flopped hard, so maybe that's the reason why they didn't want to keep dong stuff with it.

Maybe Activision might not be the worst publisher on the Switch, okay I give in, but they are certainly one of them.

DonFerrari said:

And EA put Unravel on Switch because that is also suited.

Now, they won't put a lot of money in a port that they don't expect to profit enough on the system. But as always everyone in VGC is a better businessman than company heads proven by track record of both =p

Mind to explain then why EA hasn't released a Madden game yet? Especially in the US where the sport is big and the Switch is thriving, and it would also be a multiplayer game which work very well on the system. Sure, expecting small profits is one thing but common sense is another. 

I don't want to fight, I know we had a lot of debates in the past but even you must see that their practices are strange at best.

Trust me, he does.



The thing is, I can count on my fingers the number of noteworthy releases from big devs that launched on Switch without a massive asterisk. Most ports have come late (at times very late) or low effort (hello EA, Capcom) or with download only or download most of the game shenanigans (hello Capcom (again), 2K). At times it's been more than one of those, even all three. A lot of these publishers have torched their reputation on the platform because rather than treating it as a platform for meaningfully expanding their audience with high quality releases, they have chosen to treat it as a low effort, easy cash grab. Shoot, EA and Capcom's support could easily be characterized as one prolonged experiment in seeing what they can get away with.

And shockingly, treating a platform and a subset of consumers with utter contempt doesn't endear people to you or make them want to support your products.

Oh and also, EA comments that it's troubling that Nintendo games are the best sellers. But the biggest sellers on other platforms are mostly series that AREN'T ON THE SWITCH. Of course CoD and Battlefield and Assassin's Creed and GTAV and Red Dead Redemption 2 don't dominate the top sellers list alongside the first party releases, those games AREN'T ON THE PLATFORM. And the only sports titles released on it are NBA 2K - which always has shenanigans with having to download nearly all of it even if you get the physical copy - and FIFA - which EA themselves have been half-assing for years. People can't buy what isn't there.



Soundwave said:

Sony and MS dominate the 3rd party market too much, even a lot of Switch owners own a PS4 but would rather play say NBA2K on PS4.

It's just too ingrained in people. 50 million userbase doesn't mean a lot if it requires more effort/resources to port and your sales return is going to be lower.

Nintendo unforuntately ceded the NES/SNES' legacy of being the place for all the top games (1st, 2nd, and 3rd party) to Sony in the 90s through stupid decisions and Sony is too smart to ever let Nintendo get that back.

A few 3rd parties will take a chance but many of them will just stand by.

Let me get this clear. You are saying nintendo doesn't have the best 1st party games? What are 2nd party games? Those funded by 1st parties? And nintendo was always a place for every game, including 3rd parties. It's those 3rd parties own unprofessionalism that's in the way (this thread showing a magnificent example).