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Alistair said:
Well EA is exactly right. Developers don't want to make games for 2014 cell phone CPU hardware. When I was studying programming in university do you think I dreamed about working for Blizzard anymore? I don't want to work on a 15 year old game. EA makes good games for high end PCs, thank god.

Imagine Nintendo made all their SNES games for the NES instead? Donkey Kong Country NES is all we got after 15 years of using the NES over and over. That's what Nintendo has been doing. Forcing people to make PS2 games during the PS3 era, PS3 games during the PS4 era. Now it has already been 8 years since Nintendo hit the PS3 era, and we're still waiting for PS4 level hardware while EA has moved on to the PS5. Good for them.

Jedi: Fallen Order was my favorite game of 2019, and it wasn't on the Switch. I sold my Switch.

This post topped EA's statement. Brilliant.



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Alistair said:
Well EA is exactly right. Developers don't want to make games for 2014 cell phone CPU hardware. When I was studying programming in university do you think I dreamed about working for Blizzard anymore? I don't want to work on a 15 year old game. EA makes good games for high end PCs, thank god.

Imagine Nintendo made all their SNES games for the NES instead? Donkey Kong Country NES is all we got after 15 years of using the NES over and over. That's what Nintendo has been doing. Forcing people to make PS2 games during the PS3 era, PS3 games during the PS4 era. Now it has already been 8 years since Nintendo hit the PS3 era, and we're still waiting for PS4 level hardware while EA has moved on to the PS5. Good for them.

Jedi: Fallen Order was my favorite game of 2019, and it wasn't on the Switch. I sold my Switch.

Well people are still making NES and SNES like games for current gen consoles and they seem to do fine. If you can only play AAA games, then that's your call, but many of us enjoy games from all kind of developers.

I don't believe EA should port their big games to the Switch either. The audience is just not there and it would be a half assed port anyway.



Alistair said:
Well EA is exactly right. Developers don't want to make games for 2014 cell phone CPU hardware. When I was studying programming in university do you think I dreamed about working for Blizzard anymore? I don't want to work on a 15 year old game. EA makes good games for high end PCs, thank god.

Imagine Nintendo made all their SNES games for the NES instead? Donkey Kong Country NES is all we got after 15 years of using the NES over and over. That's what Nintendo has been doing. Forcing people to make PS2 games during the PS3 era, PS3 games during the PS4 era. Now it has already been 8 years since Nintendo hit the PS3 era, and we're still waiting for PS4 level hardware while EA has moved on to the PS5. Good for them.

Jedi: Fallen Order was my favorite game of 2019, and it wasn't on the Switch. I sold my Switch.

Remind me of this:

https://youtu.be/lppTJFYigoU



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Alistair said:
Well EA is exactly right. Developers don't want to make games for 2014 cell phone CPU hardware. When I was studying programming in university do you think I dreamed about working for Blizzard anymore? I don't want to work on a 15 year old game. EA makes good games for high end PCs, thank god.

Imagine Nintendo made all their SNES games for the NES instead? Donkey Kong Country NES is all we got after 15 years of using the NES over and over. That's what Nintendo has been doing. Forcing people to make PS2 games during the PS3 era, PS3 games during the PS4 era. Now it has already been 8 years since Nintendo hit the PS3 era, and we're still waiting for PS4 level hardware while EA has moved on to the PS5. Good for them.

Jedi: Fallen Order was my favorite game of 2019, and it wasn't on the Switch. I sold my Switch.

For the bolded: industry expert Mat Piscatella from NPD-group tells a different story - on Switch released more games than PS4 and XBox One combined. Seems developers love to make games for 2014 cell phone CPU hardware.

https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1215403260078481409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

And about the underlined: Cool story Bro. Fire Emblem Three Houses and Luigis Mansion weren't on PS4. Sold my PS4. LOL.



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Can't EA bring Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order or some older single-player games to the Switch like Deadspace, Mass Effect, and Sims? Just some ideas.



GoOnKid said:
SKMBlake said:

Well Activision put Crash and Spyro trilogies, didn't they ?

And those games are well suited for the console

Yes that is true, however that was merely by accident after one single developer tried to build a Crash level out of curiosity on the Switch and it turned out it worked perfectly fine. Only then the publisher allowed the team to build a Switch version. So this story implicates that Activision had no intention to release it on the obvious well suited platform at first, but it's even worse because it also tells us that they didn't even consider it necessary to put the Switch to a simple benchmark test and validate what can and cannot be done on the system. They had a Skylanders game at launch, though, I have to admit. Turned out that flopped hard, so maybe that's the reason why they didn't want to keep dong stuff with it.

Maybe Activision might not be the worst publisher on the Switch, okay I give in, but they are certainly one of them.

DonFerrari said:

And EA put Unravel on Switch because that is also suited.

Now, they won't put a lot of money in a port that they don't expect to profit enough on the system. But as always everyone in VGC is a better businessman than company heads proven by track record of both =p

Mind to explain then why EA hasn't released a Madden game yet? Especially in the US where the sport is big and the Switch is thriving, and it would also be a multiplayer game which work very well on the system. Sure, expecting small profits is one thing but common sense is another. 

I don't want to fight, I know we had a lot of debates in the past but even you must see that their practices are strange at best.

Because they have released Fifa, which is a much bigger game with a much bigger audience worldwide and that didn't sell enough to warranty another Fifa, so why would they do it for the other yearly sports games that in general sell less? To sell even less?

Common sense is that companies want to maximize profits and don't work based on being pissed or not liking one system. When they make the calculation of investment of time and money to port a game to switch versus making a new game (yes the same rehashed Fifa or equivalent) they come to the conclusion that the second will maximize profits versus the first. Sure you can say "why don't they do both", that is because resources are finite and they probably would prefer to make a second game for PS4/X1 instead of devoting to a port on Switch.

It isn't based on hate for Switch, it is a good system for people that like the proposition of mobility, but for some devs it won't make the money they are used to expect on a release of a game.



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Dulfite said:
Vgchartz Switch Numbers in database:
Minecraft - 1.89 million
Skyrim - 1.15 million
Crash Bandicoot trilogy - 1.11 million
Fifa18 - 1.10 million
Octopath Traveler - 1.02 million

How many does EA need to sell to think it's profitable? If a million isn't enough then that's sad. I'm sure if they released all their games on Switch they'd sell enough to profit and save their company some face.

Well to be fair, FIFA is a juggernaut every year and it just managed to sell 1 million on Switch?? That’s pretty low.



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I mean we all know this. You buy Nintendo systems for Nintendo games. 3rd party games get scraps, and usually only if the games are high profile.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

I care very little for EA's games outside of some of Respawns work. I kinguin that shit anyways.