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EricHiggin said:
vivster said:
JRPGfan said:

Holy F***! US had ~162,000 cases yesterday, seeing numbers climb in 47 states?

thats alot of new infections pr day.

That's not corona, they're actually just sick of all that election fraud going on.

Street protests + street celebrations are a recipe for covid disaster.

On a side note, saw in a clip that Elon Musk apparently tweeted he got 4 covid tests in a row, 2 showing positive and 2 showing negative?

Likely means, that he has it,.... but 2 out of the 4 tests, failed to pick it up.


Also your right about Street Protests + celebrations.
All mass gatherings, are not exactly great for keeping spread down.

Soon theres black friday, thanks giveing, christmas too.
Its gonna keep growing most likely.

Also you thought the day before was bad at 162,000?
Now it turns out that yesterday was another high again in the US (~184k).

The fact that Trump just doesnt seem to care at all, and is opposed to any new restrictions or lockdowns of any kind.. Its gonna keep going up.
They estimate that around 400,000 will have died to Covid19 in the US by early March.



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200k next week for the US? Seems possible. Also, have there been any new measures (in the US)?  I haven't heard anything in a while.

We (Germany) will probably peak very soon (or we might have already).

Austria will probably go into full lockdown soon. (poor Rol)

Last edited by Barozi - on 14 November 2020

Barozi said:

200k next week for the US? Seems possible. Also, have there been any new measures (in the US)?  I haven't heard anything in a while.

We (Germany) will probably peak very soon (or we might have already).

Austria will probably go into full lockdown soon. (poor Rol)

Dont think theres any new measures taken to reduce it.
Trump is highly against any more restrictions, or even talks of partial lockdowns.
The republicans are following suit.

Yes at the rate its going, it will be over 200k daily by next week.

Germany at +23k daily isn't so bad compaired to so many other places (84m population).
It would be like there being ~89,000 cases daily in the US.



Trump is too busy sulking to care about the lives of others at this time



Weekly update. New records word wide, but Europe is showing signs they may have peaked

Worldwide reached over 4 million new cases, 4.08 million last week (up from 3.76 million) bringing the total to 53.7 million
Reported deaths grew to 60,563 (up from 54,766) to a total of 1,308,566

Europe looks to have reached the peak of the second wave (deaths are still rising), the USA is accelerating.

The continents

Europe reported 1.86 million new cases last week (down from 1.91 million) and 28,350 more deaths (up from 24,210)
North America reported 1.11 million new cases last week (up from 828.1K) and 11,837 more deaths (up from 10,826)
Asia reported 668.7K new cases last week (up from 644.7K) and 10,911 more deaths (10,829 last week)
South America reported 348.2K new cases last week (up from 289.8K) and 7,085 more deaths (7,069 last week)
Africa reported 95.0K new cases last week (up from 81.6K) and 2,366 more deaths (up from 1,822)
Oceania reported 1.8K new cases last week (down from 2.8K) and 14 more deaths (4 more than last week)

Corners of the world

USA reached over 1 million new cases, 1.01 million last week (up from 742.3K) and 7,745 new deaths (up from 7,071)
India reported 312.4K new cases last week (down from 324.7K) and 3,620 ore deaths (down from 3,924)
Brazil reported 187.0K new cases last week (up from 113.0K) and 2,911 more deaths (up from 2,473)
Iran reported 74.5K new cases last week (up from 58.8K) and 3,173 more deaths (up from 2,931)

Canada reported 31.5K new cases last week (up from 23.8K) and 392 more deaths (up from 326)
South Africa reported 12.8K new cases last week (up from 10.5K) and 404 moredeaths (down from 519)
Japan reported 8.5K new cases last week (up from 5.1K) and 61 deaths (1 less than last week)

South Korea is still in control with very slight growth, Australia reported zero deaths for the 2nd week in a row.

Europe in detail
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It looks like most countries are ready to peak, however it's mostly the big drop in France that brought the total for Europe down.
Italy somehow is on top again... Austria and Switzerland are also very high up.
Ireland is still doing the best although they had a slight up tick at the end of the week.

Europe's highest 3-day average reported deaths during the first wave was 4,409, currently Europe is at a 3-day average of 4,622
Deadliest day in the first wave was April 7th with 4,917 deaths reported in a single day, 2nd wave single day highest was Tuesday with 4,863 deaths.
It looks like the second wave is/will be deadlier than the first.



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We had the luxury of another week or two of summer in November that many people spend outdoors, which maybe slowed down the spread a bit. However now we've gone from 20c full sun last Wednesday to avg 5c with coming rain and potentially snow.

It leaves us with a difficult decision. Our kids very much enjoy seeing their grand parents in the weekend, as well as my brother-in-law's son. However he (our kid's nephew) is going to school while our kids do online schooling and my brother-in-law has a front facing job (with a lot of protection, but the risk is there) So far they stayed outside but that's no longer possible. The grand parents will be baby sitting the nephew which boils the choice down to, can our kids still go see them :/ It is their only 'escape' and it would really suck if they lose that as well. However what's the point keeping them home if they mix in the weekends.

It sucks this just keeps on going without any real effort to get where Australia and New Zealand are. Instead we get this:
"Ontario reported another record-breaking daily case count (1,581) and record additional deaths"
"Quebec reported a record 1,448 and 25 additional deaths"
"The province (Alberta) reported a record 1,026 cases today and three more deaths"
"Manitoba reported its highest number of new deaths at 15 and 239 more cases"
"Saskatchewan shattered its previous daily record and reported 308 new COVID-19 cases"
"B.C. did not provide new case information today"
(Still stubbornly not reporting in the weekend, also setting records every day now)



JRPGfan said:
EricHiggin said:
vivster said:
JRPGfan said:

Holy F***! US had ~162,000 cases yesterday, seeing numbers climb in 47 states?

thats alot of new infections pr day.

That's not corona, they're actually just sick of all that election fraud going on.

Street protests + street celebrations are a recipe for covid disaster.

On a side note, saw in a clip that Elon Musk apparently tweeted he got 4 covid tests in a row, 2 showing positive and 2 showing negative?

Likely means, that he has it,.... but 2 out of the 4 tests, failed to pick it up.


Also your right about Street Protests + celebrations.
All mass gatherings, are not exactly great for keeping spread down.

Soon theres black friday, thanks giveing, christmas too.
Its gonna keep growing most likely.

Also you thought the day before was bad at 162,000?
Now it turns out that yesterday was another high again in the US (~184k).

The fact that Trump just doesnt seem to care at all, and is opposed to any new restrictions or lockdowns of any kind.. Its gonna keep going up.
They estimate that around 400,000 will have died to Covid19 in the US by early March.

Well with 4 tests you'd think, especially if you're Musk, maybe 1 could be bad, but 2 bad tests out of 4? It's only a small amount of tests, but it doesn't seem very effective in this case, considering what the test is for. That for Musk is likely just another thing he needs to fix. lol.

This is part of the problem for Trump and conservatives. They understood, even if they didn't fully agree, the want from people in general, especially Dems, for mail in voting. Well if you won't risk socially distancing in line to vote, you definitely wouldn't risk packing the streets to celebrate, holding hands, hugging, cheering, screaming, etc. Yet that's exactly what's been happening.

It looks extremely hypocritical, and considering conservatives aren't as worried about the illness in general, it's hard to care as much as they are apparently supposed to, when the other side keeps showing they don't seem to either based on their actions. The past Floyd protests and riots just add to the frustration, even though it's people exercising their right's.

You have to choose which is more important though and stick to it, yet many have been showing covid to be less important than their words are implying.

Most recently, the Chicago Mayor was out in the streets celebrating with the crowds, but has now announced further lockdown restrictions for Thanksgiving. Her explanation as to why this makes any sense, doesn't make any sense, based on her actions. When you change your priorities on the spot like this, people stop caring, and in today's world, you quickly end up with a "boy who cried wolf" scenario.

You can't have your cake and eat it too and think others will just go along with what you demand. I'm not saying Trump is handling the situation perfectly and there's nothing legit to complain about, but I can totally understand why he may not be taking it as serious as some say he should. Either Trump's been setting a bad example when it comes to covid rules, while you set the right example, or you both set bad examples in which nobody will take either serious, which is another recipe for covid disaster unfortunately.



Rab said:
Trump is too busy sulking to care about the lives of others at this time

And will probably pin the rise in cases on Joe Biden and the Democrats if he can't find a way to get reelected.



EricHiggin said:

Well with 4 tests you'd think, especially if you're Musk, maybe 1 could be bad, but 2 bad tests out of 4? It's only a small amount of tests, but it doesn't seem very effective in this case, considering what the test is for. That for Musk is likely just another thing he needs to fix. lol.

This is part of the problem for Trump and conservatives. They understood, even if they didn't fully agree, the want from people in general, especially Dems, for mail in voting. Well if you won't risk socially distancing in line to vote, you definitely wouldn't risk packing the streets to celebrate, holding hands, hugging, cheering, screaming, etc. Yet that's exactly what's been happening.

It looks extremely hypocritical, and considering conservatives aren't as worried about the illness in general, it's hard to care as much as they are apparently supposed to, when the other side keeps showing they don't seem to either based on their actions. The past Floyd protests and riots just add to the frustration, even though it's people exercising their right's.

You have to choose which is more important though and stick to it, yet many have been showing covid to be less important than their words are implying.

Most recently, the Chicago Mayor was out in the streets celebrating with the crowds, but has now announced further lockdown restrictions for Thanksgiving. Her explanation as to why this makes any sense, doesn't make any sense, based on her actions. When you change your priorities on the spot like this, people stop caring, and in today's world, you quickly end up with a "boy who cried wolf" scenario.

You can't have your cake and eat it too and think others will just go along with what you demand. I'm not saying Trump is handling the situation perfectly and there's nothing legit to complain about, but I can totally understand why he may not be taking it as serious as some say he should. Either Trump's been setting a bad example when it comes to covid rules, while you set the right example, or you both set bad examples in which nobody will take either serious, which is another recipe for covid disaster unfortunately.

It all comes down to "My own personal actions don't mean much on a large scale", "one little ... isn't going to make a difference", and the all time favorite "others need to be more careful" Sadly we live in a world where taking responsibility for your own actions is a rarity and lead by example is nothing but a hollow phrase. Plus there's always the 'bartering', if I do a bit extra now, I can afford a 'break' later, or vice versa. Of course the virus doesn't care.

Sadly the rapid tests Canada has been working on / approving also turn out not to be all that reliable and now we don't really know what to do with them. They still needs to be verified by lab.

And it seems people are already 'jumping the gun' after news of Pfizer's vaccine
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/how-a-covid-19-vaccine-could-change-travel-for-good-1.5189071

John Bevan, CEO of Dnata Travel Group, which owns brands Travelbag, Travel Republic and Netflights as well as trade brand Gold Medal, says that there's been a noticeable uptick in bookings since news of the vaccine was announced.

And of those who can afford to go abroad next year, many are splashing out, he says, with the average booking value increasing by about 20% this week, compared to pre-COVID times. "People didn't get a vacation this year, so they're treating themselves. They're booking higher category rooms, and we're seeing more family groups, too," he says. Netflights just took a booking for a group of 19 people to go to Dubai for Easter 2021.

Get your vaccine and jump on a plane.



There's been another outbreak from a hotel quarantine breach here in Australia, this time in the city of Adelaide.

Yesterday three cases were confirmed from someone who worked at a hotel used to quarantine returning overseas travelers and brought the virus home to his family, now today there are 17 new cases in the city. Scary how fast this thing spreads given the chance. Hopefully they can clamp down on it quick and avoid what happened here in Melbourne, and I for one hope they keep the damn border closed as we're the next state over and we just got rid of it after a long and hard fight.

As heartless as this may sound, I think we should stop bringing back overseas travelers until the vaccine is ready. This is the second time now this has happened, it just seems too risky.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 15 November 2020