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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Software 21st July 2018

Biggerboat1 said:
Kerotan said:

Global Software by Platform

PlatformWeekly (change)Total
PS4 1,073,216 (+11%) 547,192,397
NS 999,116 (-21%) 63,432,364
XOne 487,639 (+35%) 251,531,679
3DS 134,315 (-8%) 316,450,934
PC 18,432 (+8%) N/A
PS3 18,177 (+5%) 956,798,643
X360 13,544 (+13%) 979,355,967
PSV 10,316 (-16%) 65,506,138
WiiU 8,084 (+14%) 92,870,744
Wii 4,093 (+15%) 912,018,909

Those numbers make sense to me as PS4 has a tonne more games than Switch, so lower sales across a higher quantity of games is giving it the edge. Although the fact that Switch is within spitting distance of PS4 with less than 1/4 of the PS4's userbase is still pretty amazing!

Plus, I think it's safe to say that a larger proportion of Switch's software sales are 1st party compared to PS4, which means more profit per sale - which I'd imagine means a larger overall profit, which is really the only number that matters (to Sony & Nintendo anyway).

Exactly, the fact that a device with 1/4th the install base is even comparable at this point is insane. 

And I think it's safe to say Nintendo is making a great amount of profit on software as their break even point for their games is relatively low. For Zelda they needed to sell 2 million units to break even, and it's well over 10 million units sold in less than 2 years. There's literally no way to spin this negatively yet people find a way.



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Biggerboat1 said:
Kerotan said:

Global Software by Platform

PlatformWeekly (change)Total
PS4 1,073,216 (+11%) 547,192,397
NS 999,116 (-21%) 63,432,364
XOne 487,639 (+35%) 251,531,679
3DS 134,315 (-8%) 316,450,934
PC 18,432 (+8%) N/A
PS3 18,177 (+5%) 956,798,643
X360 13,544 (+13%) 979,355,967
PSV 10,316 (-16%) 65,506,138
WiiU 8,084 (+14%) 92,870,744
Wii 4,093 (+15%) 912,018,909

Those numbers make sense to me as PS4 has a tonne more games than Switch, so lower sales across a higher quantity of games is giving it the edge. Although the fact that Switch is within spitting distance of PS4 with less than 1/4 of the PS4's userbase is still pretty amazing!

Plus, I think it's safe to say that a larger proportion of Switch's software sales are 1st party compared to PS4, which means more profit per sale - which I'd imagine means a larger overall profit, which is really the only number that matters (to Sony & Nintendo anyway).

And what's more: last week with the Octopath release Switch-software was in the lead. While you might say this is expected with a big release, the PS4 has the so much bigger userbase and already many years in which games released. That the Switch is by now on the same level already is incredible. Next year Switch will dominate software by far too.



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Kerotan said:

Global Software by Platform

PlatformWeekly (change)Total
PS4 1,073,216 (+11%) 547,192,397
NS 999,116 (-21%) 63,432,364
XOne 487,639 (+35%) 251,531,679
3DS 134,315 (-8%) 316,450,934
PC 18,432 (+8%) N/A
PS3 18,177 (+5%) 956,798,643
X360 13,544 (+13%) 979,355,967
PSV 10,316 (-16%) 65,506,138
WiiU 8,084 (+14%) 92,870,744
Wii 4,093 (+15%) 912,018,909

Wow, Switch software is insane!



Well I guess I was right when I said 9/10 of the top games would be Switch... although it wasn't exactly an educated guess, just common sense based on releases and such.

Ignoring the top spots, I decided to scroll down to the lower games, and I didn't realise how bad Ni no Kuni II has sold... only 0.57m copies after 18 weeks, I wonder if it'll ever break 1m sold (Not shipped)... I mean, with digital sales there's always a chance I guess... but yeah, thought with the hype around it, it would've been tracking above the first game, although we only seem to have US numbers for the first games weekly sales, odd.

Also Persona 5 is now the best selling Persona game, not including ports and such, didn't realise that... deserved though!



Bristow9091 said:
Well I guess I was right when I said 9/10 of the top games would be Switch... although it wasn't exactly an educated guess, just common sense based on releases and such.

Ignoring the top spots, I decided to scroll down to the lower games, and I didn't realise how bad Ni no Kuni II has sold... only 0.57m copies after 18 weeks, I wonder if it'll ever break 1m sold (Not shipped)... I mean, with digital sales there's always a chance I guess... but yeah, thought with the hype around it, it would've been tracking above the first game, although we only seem to have US numbers for the first games weekly sales, odd.

Also Persona 5 is now the best selling Persona game, not including ports and such, didn't realise that... deserved though!

Their loss, the game would have sold Well on Switch and the game could easily work on it with some changes.



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I absolutely underestimated the hunger for Zelda. The game's still doing well..



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So Shining Resonance PS4 ranked #17 last week. Any chance the actual chart from last week gets updated with that info? It currently shows Far Cry 5 at #17.



Switch takes top 5 and top 10/11 spots!  I knew it was doing well in NA, but looks like it is dominating worldwide right now.  Very impressive!

Biggerboat1 said:
Kerotan said:

Global Software by Platform

PlatformWeekly (change)Total
PS4 1,073,216 (+11%) 547,192,397
NS 999,116 (-21%) 63,432,364
XOne 487,639 (+35%) 251,531,679
3DS 134,315 (-8%) 316,450,934
PC 18,432 (+8%) N/A
PS3 18,177 (+5%) 956,798,643
X360 13,544 (+13%) 979,355,967
PSV 10,316 (-16%) 65,506,138
WiiU 8,084 (+14%) 92,870,744
Wii 4,093 (+15%) 912,018,909

Those numbers make sense to me as PS4 has a tonne more games than Switch, so lower sales across a higher quantity of games is giving it the edge. Although the fact that Switch is within spitting distance of PS4 with less than 1/4 of the PS4's userbase is still pretty amazing!

Plus, I think it's safe to say that a larger proportion of Switch's software sales are 1st party compared to PS4, which means more profit per sale - which I'd imagine means a larger overall profit, which is really the only number that matters (to Sony & Nintendo anyway).

Switch vs. PS4 is impressive.  But now compare Switch vs. XBox1.  XB1 has about twice the install base of Switch and is selling less than half of the software! 

Switch is the "Little Mac" of consoles, clobbering the much bigger competitors.

Last edited by The_Liquid_Laser - on 29 August 2018

Switch is certainly not the Little Mac of consoles. Nintendo portables have always done extremely well. Gameboy in all its flavors, GBA, DS, and 3DS have all had very impressive numbers. It's their dedicated home consoles (post SNES) where Nintendo has struggled other than the Wii. The idea to nix their dedicated home console line was a smart one, just as the idea to nix Sony's portable line was a smart one.



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