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Mr Puggsly said:
Azzanation said:

Lets keep in mind that these services like GamePass and All Access are most likely not going to be exclusive to the X1. I am sure we will see them cross over there there next generation.

Also theres no such thing as catching up to the competition when it comes to making money. Its not about who sells more its all to do with how to make more money.

Everything MS does is perceived as reactive to being behind in sales among fans of other platforms.

I wasn't even thinking about Sony or Nintendo when I saw this thread. The average Xbox probably sees this as a deal to boosts subscriptions, which is logical in my mind given its a revenue generator.

 

Well, seems like it's always the same three or so guys who post their 1-2 liners in these threads just to downplay everything MS does and how it won't help to get back on track and how they lost their war against Sony (don't see Nintendo guys so much in these threads).

I can't take some users serious anymore, that's for sure. At least I can't believe that someone thinks MS really wants to catch up in sales with such a small decision so that the only other option is “I just have to post something negative even if it doesn't make any sense“

MS just tries to make more money like every company does. They obviously know that this won't sell them millions of consoles more.



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sounds good to me, i use both. but i have over a year of live stacked from all the sales they have had, like buy 3 months get 3 months free. ive stacked them up each time it happens. plus being able to keep the games you get even if it expires. great setup.




 

crissindahouse said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Everything MS does is perceived as reactive to being behind in sales among fans of other platforms.

I wasn't even thinking about Sony or Nintendo when I saw this thread. The average Xbox probably sees this as a deal to boosts subscriptions, which is logical in my mind given its a revenue generator.

 

Well, seems like it's always the same three or so guys who post their 1-2 liners in these threads just to downplay everything MS does and how it won't help to get back on track and how they lost their war against Sony (don't see Nintendo guys so much in these threads).

I can't take some users serious anymore, that's for sure. At least I can't believe that someone thinks MS really wants to catch up in sales with such a small decision so that the only other option is “I just have to post something negative even if it doesn't make any sense“

MS just tries to make more money like every company does. They obviously know that this won't sell them millions of consoles more.

Not to forget there is similar quantity of 1-2 liners defending everything done... but let's focus on a single side =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Kerotan said:
Expected. They have to do something to try and catch the competition. Like everything else so far can't see it working

How many millions have been waiting for an all-access subscription option before jumping in? I mean countless times I’ve heard “Yeah GamePass is the best value in gaming by far, and Live kills PSN, but man, they gotta put them together before I’m game!”

Apparently they go together like lamb and tuna fish. And now millions get their wish. I predict 50,000,00000 in sales just from this desperate move.



crissindahouse said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Everything MS does is perceived as reactive to being behind in sales among fans of other platforms.

I wasn't even thinking about Sony or Nintendo when I saw this thread. The average Xbox probably sees this as a deal to boosts subscriptions, which is logical in my mind given its a revenue generator.

 

Well, seems like it's always the same three or so guys who post their 1-2 liners in these threads just to downplay everything MS does and how it won't help to get back on track and how they lost their war against Sony (don't see Nintendo guys so much in these threads).

I can't take some users serious anymore, that's for sure. At least I can't believe that someone thinks MS really wants to catch up in sales with such a small decision so that the only other option is “I just have to post something negative even if it doesn't make any sense“

MS just tries to make more money like every company does. They obviously know that this won't sell them millions of consoles more.

Good, don’t take them serious. Laugh and move on, they’re petty.



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That's actually a good idea by Microsoft. Let's see how they will handle this.



crissindahouse said:

Well, seems like it's always the same three or so guys who post their 1-2 liners in these threads just to downplay everything MS does and how it won't help to get back on track and how they lost their war against Sony (don't see Nintendo guys so much in these threads).

I can't take some users serious anymore, that's for sure. At least I can't believe that someone thinks MS really wants to catch up in sales with such a small decision so that the only other option is “I just have to post something negative even if it doesn't make any sense“

MS just tries to make more money like every company does. They obviously know that this won't sell them millions of consoles more.

Especially since none of them post any sort of links to at least try to have a foot to stand on when in a debate. Its all about the sales numbers to them, not the money there making. If your not number 1 on the sales charts, there's no point in competing. Logic and common sense has defiantly bypass some people.

Glad you don't take them for granted.



Azzanation said:

crissindahouse said:

Well, seems like it's always the same three or so guys who post their 1-2 liners in these threads just to downplay everything MS does and how it won't help to get back on track and how they lost their war against Sony (don't see Nintendo guys so much in these threads).

I can't take some users serious anymore, that's for sure. At least I can't believe that someone thinks MS really wants to catch up in sales with such a small decision so that the only other option is “I just have to post something negative even if it doesn't make any sense“

MS just tries to make more money like every company does. They obviously know that this won't sell them millions of consoles more.

Especially since none of them post any sort of links to at least try to have a foot to stand on when in a debate. Its all about the sales numbers to them, not the money there making. If your not number 1 on the sales charts, there's no point in competing. Logic and common sense has defiantly bypass some people.

Glad you don't take them for granted.

In all fairness VGC is mostly about UNIT sales, and not generated revenue tracking. Unit sales can be considered a pretty decent metric and same goes for revenue/active user numbers as well. The best is to combine these and try to see the whole picture.

Not taking into account unit sales will result in just as skewed overall market understanding as the one you are complaining about.

OT: it was expected and it seems to be the natural direction that MS takes as of late. They want to offer the services as a one-size-fits-all aproach. Luckily, it seems that as of next gen they will be able to sweeten the deal with some good exclusives as well. 



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If they’re most likely forced to sell the system at a loss anyway they might just lend it right away. I still think for that the monthly cost is a bit too high to be feasible.