My view would not change, I never cared for sales in terms of what defines a platform, even when the 360 or Wii were on top, I game on PC majority of the time, a platform that doesn't have hardware sales, its the way I like it. The way I wish console gamers should see it. Unfortunately when I got back into consoles all I read is negativity because one console didn't sell as much as the other. Its like hearing AMD or Nvidia fanboys cry out who's GPU sold more.. I honestly don't care, I buy which one suits my needs at the time. 

I do enjoy the site for its feedback on sales and gaming news and I don't want you to think I disrespect anyone that works hard on this site because people assume I hate numbers. Its far from the truth. I just dislike people misusing the numbers for nothing more than a dig at another.  

CGI, I use examples, to prove a point, it doesn't mean I live my life off my examples. Only way to get through to some people who think sales only matter is by using sales to prove a point. I never once meant to say sales is nothing, of course sales help but in the space of things and how the future is shaping, hardware sales means very little to me especially when a platform has its games on multiple devices. 

Speaking of deflecting and defending lol.

But take people as seriously as you want, or don’t. I don’t care. I also don’t care what you remember about last gen, I personally remember being told constantly that games like Shadow Complex, State of Decay, Skulls of the Shogun, ‘Splosion Man, etc etc were not “real games” or “didn’t count” until this gen when Sony started with massive amounts of indie/digital titles. Kind of like how BC titles don’t count right now, but they would if PS4 had BC. And your history is off when it comes to teh Chartz if you honestly believe most thought PS4 would require pay to play online.

Of course here’s where you reply saying something about the shoe being on the other foot, etc etc, and I’ll just say again, yeah it happens every time in every community, but is irrelevant to my point or the point I was replying to, which was constant dismissal and downplay and negativity in every Xbox thread from some here. You’re welcome to disagree but I’m not going to debate it anymore :)

You must not be doing the math.

$22-$35 a month is not a lot of money for the average person. We're talking about getting the console and access to many games (day one 1st party games included), that's a pretty good deal.

Also, the subscription services being lumped in means they're making a profit on the subscription services. That covers any losses on the hardware.

Shame they didn't throw in EA Access. That's a bargain at $30 a year.

That's cheap if you do the numbers and it's a great pricing model, but you have to wonder how they can sustain such cheap offers. They're really trying to entice people to xbox hard, this along with all first party titles being on gamepass, surely their profits are plummeting. The value of Gold has also plummeted, hell Amazon.co.uk are currently selling 6 months of gold for £15...

Microsoft have to be careful that they're not devaluing they're own products too much.

But it's a great deal for consumers.

There have been talks about subsiding consoles through contracts of the services since Gold launched, will this be the time it takes off?

So the plan is to make consoles like a phone then?
You will get a Xbox bill monthly that shows stuff like:
Xbox One X $15
Xbox Live $10
All Access $10
Total $35

Or something like that. Probably other hidden fees like taxes and what not. People seem ot love paying monthly for new phones all the time.

Be tempting come a new gen. Day 1 you buy a PS5 with zero games for $400.00 or you buy an Xbox 4 for $35 and it lets you play every game.

People doesn't know how to calculate interest and total cost. They only see if the monthly fee is low enough for him to pay. For me they all deserve to pay more and give more profits for companies... And that shall make sales of Xbox much better if it's goodly implemented.

How? If anything it will slow down sales and up the rents. Not that it matters when we don’t get any sales numbers anyway.

Don’t pretend it’s much different to buying it on a monthly credit.